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by Steve
Monday, December 12, 2005
Circumcised men of the world, stand up and demand your foreskin!SenSlip will help restore the sensitivity of the penis, and protect the glans from the dryness and chafing caused by constant exposure to, and rubbing against, clothing.The company's website actually has video (sorry, I didn't watch it!).
Made here in England? What the fuck? I thought everyone over here was the way nature intended.
By , at 12/12/2005 12:20:00 PM
The video, you will be relieved to know, is CG.
By , at 12/12/2005 08:38:00 PM
I did watch the video and let me tell you, if I didn't already have a natural foreskin I'd be getting one of these babies for sure!
I might get myself a pack anyway. Can't have too many foreskins
By Danieru, at 12/13/2005 12:22:00 AM
My Aunt lost her labia in a bizarre synchronised swimming accident, and I was thinking about marketing a female version of this product for flapless ladies. What do you think?
By , at 12/13/2005 04:40:00 AM
Gee, I feel left out. I wish I was a boy so that I could play with my new "sensitized" penis. Me thinks these would make great stocking stuffers, my family will be so pleased. foreskins for everyone!!!
By , at 12/13/2005 10:00:00 AM
dude! that is nasty! forskin is gross. i cant imagin all the crap that festers in your forskin! not to mention it makes your penis look gross!
By , at 12/13/2005 10:13:00 AM
Damn straight.
I'm Jewish, and frankly, I find the foreskin more than a little disturbing. There my be more nerves present, but ewwwwwwww. Honestly, I can't even begin to imagin the "stuff" that gets stuck under that flap. Yucky.
Captain Lumpy Dog, Away!
By Captain Lumpy Dog, at 12/13/2005 10:25:00 AM
MMMMM.....These remind me of the good ole days when my momma used to make me fresh foreskin sandwitches and bagel bites for lunch.
By , at 12/13/2005 12:37:00 PM
DingoBoi thinks these make great stocking stuffers!
By , at 12/13/2005 12:40:00 PM
Some of you people have issues... nothing "festers" under a foreskin you dolts, unless you don't take showers or like sticking your dick in cottage cheese. If you want to mutilate your babies, go ahead, but don't go insulting the rest of us!
By , at 12/13/2005 01:10:00 PM
I can't believe that people actually believe this stuff!
By , at 12/13/2005 01:12:00 PM
nasty.........im happy without my foreskin....i dont have to wash anything and my girlfriend likes it better this way..foreskin sandwiches lol
By , at 12/13/2005 01:46:00 PM
First thing first. It's really great that you have the eloquence to not have to resort to insults. Oops. I forgot. You did insult us. If you have a problem with circumcision, that's fine. But don't you DARE go and call one of the oldest and proudest Jewish traditions 'mutiliation.'I was only saying that IN MY OWN OPINION, foreskins are rather nasty. Of course, my personal viewpoint is skewed as I have been circumcised for all almost nineteen years of my life. In closing, if you have personal opinions, that's fine. In fact, in the majority of cases, it is a sign of intelligence (of course, there are exceptions.). But calling a widespread religious tradition 'mutiliation' is a hop, skip and a jump too far. Sorry if I came off as a wee bit pontifical, but I happen to be one very proud Heeb.
Lumpy Dog Away!
By Lumpy Dog, at 12/13/2005 01:51:00 PM
The truth hurts huh?
By , at 12/13/2005 01:53:00 PM
Ya gotta wonder who has the time and the mind to com eup with an invention like this?
By , at 12/13/2005 02:37:00 PM
to "lumpy dog"
if i do see correctly, you just called the penis without circumcision "more than a little disturbing". it may not be religious, but we have just as much right as you do to have an opinion. if you can call what we are natually given "disturbing," then we can call what you CUT OFF OF YOURSELF mutilation. don't you belive that cutting yourself is mutilation? don't you look at people in mental hospitals that have cut off parts of their bodies "mutilation"? yes. so shut up. you cut off something you were born with, and to top it off, you would be willing to do that to your children. have you ever done any research on the body part you had cut off? it doesn't take that much to clean, unless you don't shower, and you get so much more pleasure from having it. why else would they make a fake one for guys who don't have it? maybe before you talk shit about something, you should know a little about it first. and don't yell at people for having opinions. we have ours, you have yours, and you have no right to complain about it.
By , at 12/13/2005 04:00:00 PM
Main Entry: mu·ti·late
Pronunciation: 'myü-t&l-"At
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): -lat·ed; -lat·ing
Etymology: Latin mutilatus, past participle of mutilare, from mutilus truncated, maimed
1 : to cut up or alter radically so as to make imperfect ex. the child mutilated the book with his scissors
2 : to cut off or permanently destroy a limb or essential part of
Yep, sounds like it to me and I don't seem to see any Jewish bris clause in there either so there we have it
By , at 12/13/2005 04:08:00 PM
jewish circumcision is mutilation and it's creepy with the mutilator committing fellatio on the child, sick, sick, sick!!!
By , at 12/13/2005 04:24:00 PM
The reason you can't imagine "stuff" that gets stuck under there or festers under there is nothing does. It's "skin tight" if you will, the only reason stuff would be under there is if you put it there, and now THAT would be weird. Nothing grows under there because of the magical invention we have called bathing.
By , at 12/13/2005 04:43:00 PM
I don't think that we really need to result to calling anything nasty or saying things that are insulting towards other's religions or beleifs.
Now you are all getting into self indulgant arguments and missing the point of this.
That there are faux foreskins to be bought and played with. =D
By , at 12/13/2005 04:44:00 PM
http://www.medicirc.org/major_benefits.html
By , at 12/13/2005 04:58:00 PM
I have a foreskin and I am happy for it. Now when I was a child I had many Jewish friends and they thought foreskin was rather discusting. I wouldn't shower at the end of hockey practices with the team because of this. When we all started having sexual intercourse (for heavens sake not together) they realised that they weren't getting as much pleasure as I and were missing out.
See how the tables turn?
By , at 12/13/2005 05:17:00 PM
Ty,
you are an idiot. I was mutilated as a baby and I still get a lot of pleassure out of sex. SO HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT YOU GET MORE OUT OF IT? IS THERE A WAY TO MEASSURE IT?! Didn't think so, you little monkey. Adios.
By , at 12/13/2005 05:26:00 PM
well you said you were mutilated that is a term not used fondly. Are you unsatisfied?
and I don't know how to prove it but the theory is sound.
By , at 12/13/2005 05:29:00 PM
well, for the jewish ppl. it's normal to not have their foreskin. and why? simple. because that makes jewish women's happy. and in a soooo much religion and culture that has the matriarchy in the highest levels, making the womens happy will transcend your soul. xD
personaly, i love my foreskin... so many battles we'd have togheter. and is soooo sensible... some minutes touches and frictions with the right you know, and it starts to cry....
not like those unsensitive jewish ppl.... xD
jokes ;-)
By , at 12/13/2005 05:35:00 PM
Come on guys (and gals). Mutation or not, fester something or not. The topic is "what an idea!!" whoever thought of this. Dare I say, you guys are being jealous why you didn't thought of it first? Please don't take it seriously, enjoy life, it is too short to get upset on little comments like that. I don't know whether having it or not, makes any difference in bed. Comment on that, and enjoy....
By , at 12/13/2005 07:26:00 PM
Yeah, I sure wish that "some minutes touches and frictions with the right you know, and it starts to cry" Women love premature ejaculation.
By , at 12/13/2005 07:53:00 PM
i am circumcised and i think sex is great. My friend is not circumcised and he thinks sex is great. Argument over
By , at 12/13/2005 08:11:00 PM
Wow, y'all are awesome. Sit around and argue about foreskins on the computer, and get really mad and in racial disputes over it, too! Wow, this is like some sort of soap opera.
By , at 12/13/2005 08:14:00 PM
Seriously guys,
First- circumsizion or however you spell it is not only for jewish people, i am catholic and i am circumcized.
second- how can you say you have more pleasure from sex if you have never experienced it without your foreskin, now chop it off and have sex and then you can critizize but until then stop with the BS!
This is all just stupid fighting that wont end because people are Jew bashing and vice versa which is stupid. So why cant you all be happy with what you got and stop bitchin about what other people dont.
By , at 12/13/2005 08:39:00 PM
"i dont have to wash anything and my girlfriend likes it better this way"
That's probably because your girlfriend has never been with an uncircumcized guy. Evidence:
"With their circumcised partners, women were more likely not to have a vaginal orgasm. Conversely, women were more likely to have a vaginal orgasm with an unaltered partner. Their circumcised partners were more likely to have premature ejaculation. Women were also more likely to state that they had had vaginal discomfort with a circumcised partner either often or occasionally as opposed to rarely or never. More women reported that they never achieved orgasm with circumcised partners than with their unaltered partners. Also, they were more likely to report never having had a multiple orgasm with their circumcised partners. They were also more likely to report never having had a multiple orgasm with their circumcised partners" (source: The effect of male circumcision on the sexual enjoyment of the female partner).
I've put quite a bit of research into circumcision as an uncircumcized male in America. Growing up, I felt a little strange when most boys I knew were circumcized. I got made fun of a few times, but nothing too traumatizing. I was always nervous around women, but I found that it's truly not something that they care about. Both women I've had sex with had never seen an uncircumcized penis (in person) and had quite a few questions about how it works, how it's different, etc. The first girl was a virgin, so she had nothing else to compare it to. The second was not, and she now says that she actually prefers an uncircumcized penis. I asked her about how it looks and she basically said she didn't think any penises were attractive and that the foreskin didn't make it any less attractive. She enjoys the way it feels and is impressed by my stamina in general (and I don't think there's anything that special about me).
As far as hygene is concerned, my parents did not really teach me about proper hygene so I didn't do anything that I was supposed to until I was about 13 or 14 years old. I didn't retract the foreskin when I urinated and I didn't wash regularly. I can also say that I still never got any diseases or had any problems with it. Although research shows there is a slightly higher rate of penile infections, the researchers recommend that it should not affect your decision as it is not a strong enough correlation to justify circumcision.
Across the country in the US, the ways are changing. In the United States in 2003, the circumcision rate was 55.9%. The Western region of the country now had a 31.4% circumcision rate. Many people are now realizing that it's pointless to circumcize children. If they want to get circumcized, give them that decision since it can't be undone. My very long two cents. -Cyb
By , at 12/13/2005 10:03:00 PM
Hey now...circ'ed penises are way more attractive-looking. And if you call that a "mutilation", you psycho hippies, then I guess piercings and tattoos are mutilations too. Get over it. If you're so concerned, buy fake foreskins and give them to your Jewish friends for Christmas. You heard me.
By , at 12/13/2005 11:46:00 PM
I can't believe you guys have never heard of smegma. It's the dick cheese that collects under a foreskin. True, I've never seen an uncircumcised penis, but I like mine nice and trim. Oh, and just for the record, that last Jew bashing prick can go to hell, and I'd be more than happy to send you there. If you want someone to hate on, hate people who can't think for themselves enough not to mindlessly hate others. And no, I'm not jewish, I'm actually a vampire.
Racists are yummy. >:)
By , at 12/14/2005 01:10:00 AM
I'd buy one just to try it if it wasn't so ridiculously priced. Hell, if they were $10-20 I bet they could sell far more.
By , at 12/14/2005 02:03:00 AM
Arguing on the internet is like competing in the Special Olympics,,, even if you win, you are still retarded.
By , at 12/14/2005 02:46:00 AM
you know why jews were circumsized originally? after moses set them free, they wandered round a desert for 40 years...didnt want to get sand in there now would you?...
By , at 12/14/2005 05:02:00 AM
this is a little out of controll aint it. its all about preference. anyway your dick looks bigger with it haha and the actual reason for it is to keep your bell end clean and infection free. everything is their for a reason it all has a purpose or we wouldn't have it would we
By , at 12/14/2005 05:49:00 AM
Piercings and Tattoos are mutilation depending on who you ask. But that's different you're not removing a part of your body that serves a purpose just for cosmetic reasons. And don't say it doesn't serve a purpose because it does, it protects the head of the penis. The reason people say sex is better with a foreskin is because they've done studies, they ask people who have had a circumcision later in life, so I guess they would know. Also when you stop protecting the head it has to heal itself from all the chafing against fabrics, so the healed tissue is thicker, and therefore less sensitive. Not that any of this matters, because no one is going to post on here, oh yeah, I hate my penis I wish it was different.
By , at 12/14/2005 07:35:00 AM
2 : to cut off or permanently destroy a limb or essential part of
Since when is foreskin a "limb" or "essential"? Circumcision doesn't sound like mutilation to me!
By , at 12/14/2005 08:06:00 AM
At no point in your rambling, incoherent response was there anything that could even be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul!
By , at 12/14/2005 08:26:00 AM
cock in a sock!
By , at 12/14/2005 08:57:00 AM
WHY ARE JEWISH MEN CIRCUMSIZED??
BECAUSE THE WOMEN LOVES EVERYTHING THEY GET HALF OFF!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
By , at 12/14/2005 09:49:00 AM
Err.. I don't even think an Olympic Wanker would have that big foreskin.. :S the only good thing with the foreskin is that it protects your glans from feeling strange in the underpants... if you're circumsized maybe your glans isn't as sensitive as ours, because if I touch stuff with my glans it feels really awkward.. but ok.. I'll just cut my dick off and use an electric sock cause that's how I'm born
By , at 12/14/2005 03:26:00 PM
im a girl, and ive seen em both ways...honestly, i prefer my uncircumcised partner because he can actually feel what im doing to him, my last partner had little to no sensation on the tip of his penis due to circumcision. So i say leave em alone, but having rubber foreskin is a little creepy. By the way, stop picking on the Jewish guy, if he wants to mess up his penis, that's his problem :D
By , at 12/14/2005 04:06:00 PM
It's not instinct to cut off some penis skin, so why do we do it. I personally like my foreskin flappin in the wind. It's pretty sweet. I think i will peirce it and put a ring through it.
By , at 12/14/2005 08:59:00 PM
I have no problem with foreskin. I'm circumsized. I live in America. Every girl I've had sex with has said they're glad I'm circumcized. I seem to enjoy sex a damn lot, so who the hell cares. Plus I watch that video and see the whole foreskin thing and all I can think about is dogs and "Red Rocket".... damn you South Park
By , at 12/15/2005 12:29:00 AM
Are theye edible? I ate my 1st husbands right off & miss the taste of chicken with spew! Let me know, I'm dying to find out.
By , at 12/15/2005 09:59:00 AM
Sixty percent of Americans are circumcized. Eighty percent of all males in the world are NOT circumcized. As a result, cut American men have to villify uncut men. You would not believe the BS cut Americans tell themselves about what it's like having a foreskin. If you were to believe them you'd think that having a foreskin meant having to shower every 15 minutes. There seems to be a great deal of deep seated rage amongst cut men. The term for it is "circumcision rage".
If I don't wash my pussy for a week bacteria builds up.
Should I:
a. learn to wash
b. cut my pussy lips off
If I don't wash my ears for a week wax builds up.
Should I:
a. learn to wash
b. cut them off
If I don't wash my face for a day or two this sticky glue builds up in my
eyelids?
Should I:
a. learn to wash
b. cut them off
If I don't was my feet for a week toe jam appears.
Should I:
a. learn to wash
b. cut them off
If I don't wash my dickey for a week some smell may appear.
Should I:
a. learn to wash
b. cut my weewee's best part off
By , at 12/15/2005 12:46:00 PM
The American male is the only mammal that requires immediate corrective surgery at birth.
Americans have bought into the troll hook, line, and sinker. What troll, you ask? The troll started by the wingnut Dr Kellogg who recommended circumcision as a means of desensitizing the penis in order to reduce masturbation. He also wanted the clitoris burned out with acid but that one didn't catch on. Google "Kellogg, circumcision" for the story.
Every couple expecting a son questions circumcision. But many still do it in the end out of a cowardice. They are afraid that their son will be tormented by the mutilated in the locker room.
Great reason to perpetuate this idiotic practice.
By , at 12/15/2005 01:10:00 PM
whos cares about your penis....i dont......so why dont you calm down about it, it is proven that the unremoved foreskin have billions of more bacteria cells in, and under the flap of skin. yeah im circumsized and i personally would rather have it circumsized, first oof because i can get a better job in the porn buissness. seacrest out, bitches.
By , at 12/15/2005 05:01:00 PM
oh yeah.. i forgot to put the benifets of circumcision
1. it prevents penile cancer
2.it prevents hiv/aids!!!
3.it prevents stds!!!
4.it prevents urinary track infections
5.just cause your mad that your dick looks weird doesnt mean you should get angry
6.whoever posted the comment about, just cause (body part here)is dirty i should
1. clean it
2.cut it off
is a fuckin idiot!
removing the foreskin is proven to have signifigant health benifents!!!
so why dont you stupid english, stop hatin on americans and jews and get a fuckin life!!
seacrest out, bitches.
By , at 12/15/2005 05:14:00 PM
Replace my foreskin?? What on earth would i want to do that for? It's much nicer looking, more higenic, cleaner, and i know for a fact that most women much much prefer a circumcised penis!! And what was that absolute crap about 'dryness and chafing caused by constant exposure to and rubbing against clothes'? Do you actually have a clue what you are talking about????
By , at 12/16/2005 05:21:00 AM
A little small isn't it?
By , at 12/16/2005 05:28:00 AM
"it prevents hiv/aids"
Ha ha, only gullible americans can believe that bullshit.
American women prefer circumcised men because most men are like that but the rest of the world don't give a shit about it.
By , at 12/16/2005 05:45:00 AM
I feel sorry for the circumsized men.
By , at 12/16/2005 08:29:00 AM
umm. I think most of the arguements here are retarded but since I am a little sleep deprived and my brain isn't working anyway I thought I would throw in my two cents. I am a uncircumcised Canadian with a circumcised brother and to my understanding it really doesn't make any significant difference to anyone whether or not they were circumsized. Sex is fun. you will get infections if you don't clean, whether or not you are circumsized. read the research, people! BEING CIRCUMSIZED DOES NOT PREVENT HIV/AIDS OR STDs (the retard that believes that deserves what he gets). I am, however, under the opinion that if someone wants to be circumcised it should be their choice to make when they are an adult and competent to do so (as do people who get tattoos, etc). As an atheist I cannot see why parents are allowed to perform genital mutilation on their children in order to conform to superstitious bullshit (jew, catholic, islamic, whatever). The important thing is that someone came up with this ridiculous product and this should give everyone a good laugh!
By , at 12/16/2005 12:11:00 PM
I think the Final Solution is to find out if it will survive the oven.
By , at 12/16/2005 12:24:00 PM
Why in the name of god would we want that?
By , at 12/16/2005 01:03:00 PM
Right first of all it's not just religeous reasons that people have to have this operation performed. Unfortunately i could'nt piss in a potty. Unfortunate, yes but in the past i may have been left with half a dick. My girlfriend does believe in the smeg thing, but we still have to clean. It is still a warm moist place. THINK ABOUT IT. I feel that if it's not broken dont try to fix it. Religeon is hard to comment on because its about beliefs. However female circumcision does baffle me.
By th0mh0, at 12/16/2005 01:08:00 PM
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By th0mh0, at 12/16/2005 01:18:00 PM
I much prefer sucking a cock that doesn't have a foreskin, much tastier.
By , at 12/16/2005 01:36:00 PM
There are a lot of very sad anti-Semitic racists in here aren’t there, how about you just try, and respect people, there religion and tradition, you can have your opinion, that’s fine but don’t express it if it could be considered to be offensive, simple as, it amazes me that there are some men who are obsessed with willies, its really rather immature. A cock is a cock, if you have a foreskin; I hope that you wash under it just as I hope that if you do not have a foreskin you wash it anyway, I would hope that you all have that basic level of hygiene. By the way, I really cannot tell the difference, if a guy has or does not have his foreskin but I do find that those with out are not still competing with other men as if they where still in school over which one of them has the best penis, how much sex do you lads all get anyway? Loose some testosterone and gain some respect.
Thanks.
By , at 12/16/2005 02:11:00 PM
being circumsized is good if you have no arms or are simply too retarted to wash your cock.
By , at 12/16/2005 04:55:00 PM
I'm not circumcized. I feel badly for the guys that are, wish they knew what they're missing. If I want to know what it's like to be circumsized, I can just pull the foreskin back and secure it there for a couple days... the head of the penis toughens up... sensitivity goes down, really not an optimal situation.
In all honestly, smegma (that creamy white stuff that builds up) only shows up if you don't wash your penis for 3-4 days or more. Any girl that meets a guy with smegma can let him know he's dirty, unless he's camping in antarctica and can't clean or something.
And I made it through school without being teased once. If anything other guys were fascinated and asked questions like 'does it make it feel better?' 'do girls like that it looks bigger?'. If anything I felt like I had the advantage.
All in all, it should be the childs decision what they do to their body. If they hit the age of 18 and say "Hey... I think my penis is too sensitive, and the skin just isn't hard and thick enough. Oh and.. I think I'm going to require myself to use oils and lubricants when I masturbate... because that process just needs more complications." If any 18 year old says that.. he's free to chop off parts of his penis in my book :)
Speaking of which... this is something I've always wondered... all this talk of baby oil or vaseline when masturbating... I'm guessing that's because circumsized men don't have the foreskin to produce that sliding effect... so they have to lube up otherwise they chafe their penis?... MAN THAT SUCKS. Maybe i'm missing something... but if circumsized guys only have the option of that one kind of masturbation where you have to lube up...that's a seriously crappy situation.
By , at 12/16/2005 05:11:00 PM
ok, this is it, im a circumcised MUSLIM, as most of us are, i dont give a shit about not having a seedy looking flap of skin on the end of my wang, and for all of you who said that it wouldnt be there if it didnt have a purpose, think about the appendix, IT HAS NO GODDAM USE BUT ITS STILL THERE!!! and for all those uncut men who seem to find it there business to decredit a very old religious tradition, you should think about it, why the hell do u care what other people do to there PRIVATE parts, their called that cos they are, stay out of our crotches,
Peace out mother fuckers
By , at 12/16/2005 06:40:00 PM
whoever says we have everything for a reason-
we got an appendix and we sure as hell dont need that.
By , at 12/16/2005 07:00:00 PM
ok people, there are medical reasons for people having foreskins removed as a child, in my case it didnt grow with the rest of me causing pain and obviously the inability to urinate, so off it went (which is a good thing obviously) i dont however 20 years later feel the need to go out and buy a fake one, i think after 20 years of toughening up the skin wont be hypersensitive again anyway so why bother, also why are you lot all so bloody argumentative, some have foreskins some dont get over it, people are different, its only ythe insecure that would buy 1 of these things anyway and im in total agremenet with the appendix comment above, maybe we could make artificial appendices for those who had them removed so they dont feel so empty with you lot hounding them for their 'imperfections' and 'mutilations'
GET OVER IT
By , at 12/16/2005 07:13:00 PM
Foreskins are fun! I love them :) So much more sensual to play with.
Circumcised penises are missing something nice, it's a good job that most circ'd men don't realise what they and their partners are lacking, there would be lawsuits all over the place.
Yeah, just about everyone in England has one except for Jews and Muslims.
By , at 12/17/2005 12:23:00 PM
Listen Jerks, first of all, I didn't circumcise myself. I was EIGHT FUCKING DAYS OLD! In Judaism there is a person called a mohel, a highly trained, and very strictly religious person who does it for us. First, we're given a sip of wine, so that we can't feel anything. Seriously, look up the bris online. And to all you sick anti-semites with your Jewish jokes, go find your own white-supremist BBS. Come on people, I meant no offense, and I certainly didn't intend to create the hoopla that I did. I'm sorry. Oh, and by the way, not only am I Jewish, but I'm American, so fuck off with all the anti-American jokes too.
LDA
By Captain Lumpy Dog, at 12/17/2005 02:25:00 PM
Why is it okay for you to insult uncircumcised men by calling their bodies nasty and dirty, but when someone argues for leaving little boys' bodies intact, it's offensive and insulting?
You know, it's traditional in some cultures to mutilate the genitalia of little girls, too, by cutting of their clitorises and ruining their sex lives and taking away their autonomy and their choice. Maybe that's not a direct analogy here, but your cultural relativism doesn't really work in that case, does it? Just because something is a tradition doesn't make it right. You're going to have to come up with something that directly relates to the actual criticisms: that circumcision takes away bodily autonomy and choice. Can you refute those points without pulling out "tradition"?
By , at 12/17/2005 06:50:00 PM
Very well said. Unfortunately, I cannot cite anything other than the fact the that while he was in his nineties, Abraham was instructed by the Almighty to circumcise himself. Unlikely as this sounds, it has been this way for almost 6000 years. I'm sorry if I was a jerk, but I just can't stand anti-semitism in any of its forms. I know England has not been the most Jew friendly nation (Hell, we were banned from the island for almost five hundred years), but you're right. Ironically, in the unlikely event that someone would convert to Judaism, one wouldn't even have to fully circumcise themselves. All one needs is to draw a single drop of blood, and that counts as a bris. As to the "nasty" comment, the first time I ever saw a foreskin was when I swam competitively, and one of my team mates was changing. I had no idea what it was. What it really comes down to is what you're used to. Again, I sincerely appologize for my foul languange and my pontificating, but I'm very proud of my heritage, and I'm willing to defend it tooth and nail. Finally, of all the responses to my post, I have to say yours, number 70 deserves the most respect. Thank you for your eloquence and dignity.
Cheers,
CLDA!
By Captain Lumpy Dog, at 12/17/2005 11:15:00 PM
For those of you that think it's better to be cut to prevent STD, cancer, and the like there are many medical danger to getting cut.
"The quantity of blood loss that might kill an infant (85ml) is easily concealed in today’s highly absorbent disposable diaper. Many newborns, and especially premature infants, weigh much less and a smaller amount of blood loss would be sufficient to trigger hypovolemic shock in those infants. Circumcision of infants, therefore, carries the inherent danger of hypovolemic shock and death."
"In Finland, fewer than one man in a thousand is circumcised, yet the incidence of penile cancer in Finnish men is less than in Americans. Finnish women also have less cancer of the cervix than American women."
"In this country anesthetics are rarely used. The infant struggles and screams, and often vomits and defecates, before lapsing into unconsciousness."
"In England and Wales, however, it is known that an average of 16 children died annually from 1942 to 1947 as a direct result of circumcision."
"Dr. Weiss mentions these other possible complications: sepsis, eczema of the glans and meatus, meatal stenosis, surgical adhesions, interference with nutrition, edema of local tissue, seepage of blood with resulting anemia, and injuries of the glans or scrotal skin Dr. Weiss mentions these other possible complications: sepsis, eczema of the glans and meatus, meatal stenosis, surgical adhesions, interference with nutrition, edema of local tissue, seepage of blood with resulting anemia, and injuries of the glans or scrotal skin."
To me the risks outway any benifits. When I have a child he will be uncut untill he can decide for himself.
By , at 12/17/2005 11:32:00 PM
Dear Captain Lumpy Dog,
I have to take issue with your post. Jews may have been banned in England for 500 years but that was between the 11th and 16th centuries, 400 YEARS AGO. I know some people bear grudges, but don't you think that it might be time to let go of that particular one?
You see racism goes both ways, the English have got a proud heritage of providing refuge for all kinds of migrants from the hugenots onwards, who have helped to shape the cultural mix that is currently living here. I personally am sick of people dissing my culture (yes, the English have one too), and it really doesn't help their case any to be pulling up atrocities from hundreds of years ago, with which to beat today's population. (And I said the same thing to a Welsh person who was trying to blame todays population for the atrocities that King John inflicted on them nearly 800 years ago).
If you think Jews have been treated badly here, you should look back in history and see what happened to them in other countries in the same time frame.
By , at 12/18/2005 02:31:00 AM
Not getting one, I'm circumsised for medical reasons and if I made my will more sensitive the missus would leave me. I mean I can't believe she thinks twelve seconds is too quick.
By , at 12/18/2005 03:14:00 AM
The sensitivity thing is about depth of feeling and control. Men with foreskins have much more feeling and a better ability to control themselves, well that's the comment I've heard from many men who have restored anyway.
By , at 12/18/2005 04:22:00 AM
This make one wonder exactly how much damage should one person be able to inflict on a non-consenting person in the name of "religion". Obviously, it's illegal to inflict such damage on a girl, but you can do whatever you want to a boy... assuming you get him a little drunk, first.
I think the product is a great idea, but hopefully, it will become obsolete when it is also illegal to subject boys to unnecessary human genital modification.
By , at 12/18/2005 06:49:00 AM
#70 checking in again - thanks, CLDA, for your response. I just want to clarify that while I've obviously got some anti-circumcision feelings, I am not at all anti-semitic, and I am really grossed out that the thread turned that way so quickly. I asked you to address my points without talking about tradition, and I think it's well beyond reasonable to ask everyone else to make their own points without falling back on bigotry.
By , at 12/18/2005 07:13:00 AM
i'm not a guy so my comment may seen irrelavent, but w/ my experiance the one guy that i was w/ that was still "all natural" wasn't as good sexually. the reason being is he had to stop every few minutes to pull the skin back over the head because it was to sensitive, it was kind of a mood killer. on the other hand it did give me a different sensation which wasn't all bad.... to bad it could've been more consistant. that's just my opinion.
star
By star, at 12/18/2005 01:44:00 PM
Cicumcised males are more likely to participate in risk sexual behavior like anal sex--you're not gay, you're not gay, but having it cut's gonna turn you gay
one in hundred babies die of circumcision
one in 107 men get penile cancer
Americans suck at math, mohels suck little bleeding dicks and give them herpes
americans cut, americans have the highest rates of sexually transmitted disease in the world, you go, assclowns!
By , at 12/18/2005 10:02:00 PM
not anti-semitic, but religious rituals suck if they kill babies
MSNBC staff and news service reports
Updated: 11:50 a.m. ET Feb. 2, 2005
City health officials are investigating the death of a baby boy who was one of three infants to contract herpes after a rabbi circumcised them.
Ten days after Rabbi Yitzhok Fischer performed religious circumcisions on twins last October, one died of herpes and the other tested positive for the virus, according to a complaint filed by the health department in Manhattan Supreme Court.
The complaint, reported in Wednesday’s edition of the New York Daily News, also said health officials later found a third baby who had contracted herpes after being circumcised by Fischer in late 2003.
By , at 12/18/2005 10:06:00 PM
Botched circumcision kills boys
Chris McGreal in Johannesburg
Four boys have died and about 100 have been admitted to hospital after botched circumcision ceremonies in south Africa.
Doctors have blamed "traditional surgeons" who use the same blade to circumcise dozens of teenage boys at a time as part of ancient Xhosa rites of passage in Transkei.
The children either bled to death or died from infections. Some of those in hospital are in a critical condition.
Initiates have also complained of traditional surgeons who are drunk or high on cannabis during the cutting ceremony. Health workers have long warned against traditional methods of circumcision, in part because repeated use of the same blade will spread Aids and hepatitis.
Infections are also caused when bandages used to control bleeding are tied too tight.
The health ministry has threatened to prosecute traditional surgeons who fail to maintain good hygiene but with little effect.
Ten boys died during similar ceremonies in the middle of last year. Families typically pay 200 Rand (£ 20) for a traditional surgeon and attendants at the ceremony. Most Xhosa are too poor to pay for a hospital circumcision.
Medic Explains Circumcision Deaths
By Standard Reporter
Nairobi
Ninety per cent of youths who die after undergoing circumcision suffer from undetected bleeding disorders, the chairman of Kenya Haemophilia Association, Dr Walter Mwanda, has announced.
Mwanda said these children suffer from haemophilia and die due to lack of early detection of the condition which leads to their bleeding to death.
He was speaking during a training for medical practitioners involved in haemophilic-related disorders lectured by the World Federation of Haemophilia(WFH),Kenya Haemophilic Association and Kenyatta National Hospital. WFH Vice-President, Mr Paul Giangrande said Africa needed to know the implications of having a child with the disorder and what medics have to do for its treatment and survival.
Circumcision kills one, another serious
Saturday, February 12,2005
BANKE: Muyoddin Khan, 5-year-old son of Rahamadtulla of Indrapur-5, died on Thursday while another son, Santalat, 7, has been admitted to Bheri Zonal Hospital due to excess bleeding after they were circumcised on the same day. "We carried out circumcision on the boys as part of our religion, but the bleeding did not stop," said Rahamadtulla.
He had also lost his eldest son in a similar incident five years ago. According to him, another 7-month-old son has to undergo the same ritual. "I can’t go against our religion although I’ve lost two of my sons," he said.According to doctors, Santalat is in serious condition.
"Surgery ends in coma; wife gets $3.85 million" Trenton, N.J. (UPI) "A $3.85 million out-of-court settlement was awarded to the wife of a man who has been in a coma since a circumcision operation four years ago." [Source?]
"Botched Circumcision wants to meet man who likes headless cocks. Also, want to meet man with headless cock." (From a classified ad in Foreskin Quarterly.)
"Surgery ends in coma; wife gets $3.85 million" Trenton, N.J. (UPI) "A $3.85 million out-of-court settlement was awarded to the wife of a man who has been in a coma since a circumcision operation four years ago." [Source?]
"Botched Circumcision wants to meet man who likes headless cocks. Also, want to meet man with headless cock." (From a classified ad in Foreskin Quarterly.)
"MD sued for cutting short man's sex life" Ottawa Citizen, 3/4/88. "TORONTO (CP) A couple is suing a doctor claiming a circumcision he performed left the man unable to have sex ... The couple, from Hamilton, say the 1984 operation excessively foreshortened the man's penis and left him unable to achieve an erection or ejaculate."
By , at 12/18/2005 10:50:00 PM
For any who said that the appendix was useless think back to tonsils, they were often cut out due to "infection" but it was later found out that the tonsils are part of the lymphatic system and swell/change color in responce to illness within a person. Just because an appendix has no apparent purpose dosen't mean that it dosen't do anything, it just means people are too shortsighted to be assed to figure it out.
By , at 12/19/2005 11:12:00 AM
Unknown--
As a matter of fact, I'm one of the few Americans I can think of who not only respects English culture, but I actually love English food! I understand that my time frame may have been off, but I would like to make an offer to close the Circumcise / Don't Circumcise argument by getting back to the original topic at hand: Why in the name of Almighty Bread Pudding would a company create an artificial foreskin? Can we just get back to the topic at hand. I know there are some powerful arguments both ways, and ironically, I wrote a ten page essay in grade six about circucision in Africa, and I have to say, female circumcision is perhaps one of the cruelest acts one can commit. While male circumcision may or may not have medical benefits, female circumcision serves no purpose other than torturing the girl. In closing, let's all agree to disagree, and try to be friends. Again, if I offended anyone, I'm painfully sorry. That was as far from my intention as is physically (literally??) possible.
We're all civilized people, even the bigots, and we should all act that way, myself included. I'll be the first to admit that I have some very strong personal prejudices (I won't go into them, as I feel they're private, not to mention the fact that I don't wish to alienate myself from the group even further.)
You know what they always used to say:
"Come on get happy!!!"
Cheers,
Captain Lumpy Dog
By n Lumpy Dog, at 12/19/2005 08:36:00 PM
HAHA!!
people are retarded to turn this into some dumb religious issue.
ITS FAKE FORESKIN!!!
getting all defensive about your tool online is hilarious.
jeez ppl, get over yourselves.
if it was cheaper, i'd try it for fun.
or a joke.
By , at 12/20/2005 08:41:00 AM
The utter ignorance through hate and discrimination.
Woman say they love foreskin, or that they hate it, I haven't heard, or experienced a woman who was dead set on one preference. If there are some, it may be due to experiences, we sexually tend to like or dislike things based on psychological preference, and not so much if it actually does feel better, or even contributes to a better sensation.
As to men arguing, I'm cut, but my relatives are uncut, this stems from me being a mutt, and having a gamut of different relatives, and I can tell ya, I haven't heard any different stories from cut men, than from uncut men. Sharing stories with other male relatives, it comes out to be, it really doesn't make a difference, it's just preference.
heres some points, pros and cons.
Uncut:
You have to make sure when you haven't showered, or have been exposed to extended circumstance, to make sure the foreskin is cleaned. like any crease of skin, it may get sore or inflammed, this is normal and happens, nothing for people to use as an argument, as balls can get this way too, due to the creases and folds when loose.
I've heard and seen photos of foreskin mishaps when rough sex occurs, where tears in the foreskin can appear, this is natural as the skin is very thin and any part of the body can be affected like this.
lastly some woman feel having a foreskin adds to the pleasure as the skin seems to "slide" around inside them, while they have the sensation of the penis still sliding almost independently inside of them. (sort of like the sensation of a severly internally lubbed condom)
Cut:
It is a fallacy that the sensation is deadened, as the nominal tolerance and feeling threshold of nerves differ with each and every person. In fact the sensation is the same if not equally as much to provide pleasure for the male.
The skin chaffing is less apparent than one would think, as if a cut penis chaffs, then the foreskin on an uncut penis would chaff as well.
The look of the penis is changed into a "cleaner" look as defined by most the medical community, but most woman overseas as well as from cultures that do no circumsize, see it as strange, and will sometimes not sleep with cut males.
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I mean, really, does it matter? cut or uncut. IT'S A PENIS, and it functions the same either way, the sensations are the same, the penetration is the same.
the foreskin is a evolutionary leftover that in future generations will begin becoming smaller as we no longer have fur that the foreskin would need to protect the glans. Due to this, you will run into more and more people just preferring uncut people because generally speaking, it'll just fade with generations. Like the man who mentioned a tight foreskin, this happens, and sometimes can cause erectile and urinary complications, and the only fix is circumcision or other types of penile surgery.
I hope all woman keep an open mind, cut or uncut, it all depends on the man, and your personal preferences, and not just the media or social ideals.
By , at 12/20/2005 11:41:00 AM
I can't believe this turned into a huge religious argument! It doesn't matter as much as many of you think. I totally agree with the previous post, well stated! A penis is a penis whether or not it has a foreskin, there are pros and cons for both sides.
I am a circumsized guy and I wish my parents would have let me make that decision for myself. That's just my 2 cents, peace out everyone
By , at 12/20/2005 12:38:00 PM
HOORAY!!!!!!
*does happy dance*
The argument is finally over. I'm going to leave you guys with a modified line from one of my favorite Dr. Seuss books: "A penis is a penis no matter how small."
I'm really happy to see that we all came to our senses and ended the flame war. Way to be mature guys! And they say that all comment posts have the maturity of a two year old.
Peace and Chicken Grease
Captain Lumpy Dog Away!
By Captain Lumpy Dog, at 12/20/2005 03:26:00 PM
I'm from Scandinavia where all infant/child circumcisions(both male&female)are concidered act of violence towards children and not practised at all.
Don't want to get into a debate but just wondering aren't there any education about genitals in American schools - or where on earth do people get these ideas that foreskins are dangerous or dirty? Foreskin and frenulum are there for a reason and at least here men would be horrified if you suggested that they cut part of their genitals(or their sons' genitals) as horrified as if you suggested to women that they cut part of their genitals(or their daughters').
Here men don't need circumcision later in life, foreskin doesn't cause problems. I'm all very confused.
By , at 12/20/2005 11:54:00 PM
Being cut myself I have been able to stretch the skin back to completely cover the head of my penis.
I think this is a completely viable option for those who wish to protect the glans of their willies !
The cost appears to be very high, but to each their own !
By , at 12/22/2005 09:54:00 AM
want to know why jewish men is circumsized??
By , at 12/22/2005 11:01:00 AM
because the jewish women likes everything half off!!
By , at 12/22/2005 11:01:00 AM
since the heads of muslim women is covered...they rather the other heads of the men are not! hahaha
By , at 12/22/2005 11:02:00 AM
you know why alot of poor people aint circumsized?? hahahaha cuz the mama wanna leave the hospital without having to pay for a p[iece of skin cut off!! hahahahahaha
By , at 12/22/2005 11:03:00 AM
as that is beautiful to know that one has again the foreskin :D
By , at 12/24/2005 03:41:00 AM
most of you all say is wrong
I was circumcised when I was 18. I can assure you sex is great before and afterwards.
Generally, women I have dated prefer a cut cock- for both sex and oral sex. you do lose some sensitivity but on the bright side - sex lasts longer - from a blokes perspective is this a good thing???!!!
Most of Americans, Canadians, Aussies and New Zealanders are all cut and where I grew up (north london) it must be close to 50:50 what with all the jewish and muslem folk (some of whom are good freinds of mine - so please leave out all the racist stuff). Also, africans cut their kids at adulthood as do many people in asia.
Regarding sensitivity, it depends on how you are cut - what method - what device. By removing outer foreskin, the sensitivity is actually improved. By removing inner foreskin the sensitivity is reduced. It also depends on whether the cut is tight or loose - must cuts in the UK are loose, most cuts in the US are tight. A jewish cut si somewhere in between. In a tight, high cut, there is little shaft skin movement and the circ scar is near the scrotum. In a tight low cut, the cut scar is near the glans. In a loose high cut the scar is still near the scrotum but there is more movement of the shaft skin. In a loose, low cut the scar is near the glans and there is shaft movement. Most UK cuts are loose and low because they are done freehand using essentially a pair of scissors.
Almost finally - the appendix is actually pretty good at helping digesting green veg so it is not entirely redundant.
So finally, and most important - what do I prefer 5 years later.... Well actually, I really like being cut - it looks nicer (in my view), it is cleaner, I can masturbate and have sex for longer, my girlfriend prefers it, and statistically, there is a lower chance of me getting the HPV virus, HIV or my partners getting cervical cancer.
how do I know so much about the procedure- I am a urologist.
why did I get cut - foreskin wouldn't go back over my glans (helmet) so I had it removed. There are many others ways to relieve this problem but these other methods increase the risk of getting the foreskin stuck behind the glans with an erection and not being able to get it back into its normal position. This is a very nasty consequence requiring emergeny medical treatment.
My semi-expert opinion (have not seen or used one) on the artificial retractable foreskin - what a load of bo***cks.
By , at 12/27/2005 01:58:00 PM
Wow cool this looks wicked I think I'll get one. I wish I saw this sooner I wonder if us youngesters can wear it or do I have to wait till I finish puberty :P, The sooner the better I think. I'll say that circumsion ok if u agree to it but circumsing us kids when were babies just aint rite especialliy over some dumb 200,000 year old ancient ritual
By , at 12/29/2005 12:57:00 AM
I am a British jew and circumcised at birth. How any jew can say foreskin is not nice seems a little strange to me as they have never had one. For religious jews I think its fair enough to continue with a tradition they believe in so strongly. As most of my partners are not jews sometimes I would like to have a foreskin as it is the norm in this country, or just to see what it feels like with the bits god wanted me to have!!
By Jon, at 12/31/2005 07:09:00 AM
I am a British jew and circumcised at birth. How any jew can say foreskin is not nice seems a little strange to me as they have never had one. For religious jews I think its fair enough to continue with a tradition they believe in so strongly. As most of my partners are not jews sometimes I would like to have a foreskin as it is the norm in this country, or just to see what it feels like with the bits god wanted me to have!! greensky2005@hotmail.co.uk
By Jon, at 12/31/2005 07:10:00 AM
Haha, given a sip of wine before getting your dick sliced up? I'll pass. By the way, there are a lot of other fucked up age-old traditions out there that are beginning to be questioned and done away with, get with the times.
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