New Pill Improves Gas Mileage ~ Strange New Products

Sunday, December 18, 2005

New Pill Improves Gas Mileage

3:42 PM | by Steve Johnson |

Now you can put a pill into the gas tank of your car, to improve the fuel mileage it gets from gasoline, as well as reduce emissions.

Called "Bio-Performance", it's manufacturer claims it alters the molecular structure of gasoline, and liberating its energy. They say this is achieved through "Brownian motion", the molecular movement of the components of the polymeric chains contained in hydrocarbons. It's a long-winded explanation, read the full details.

Overall, they say your car get an extra 18-22% more miles from the same gallon of gas, and possibly up to 35% more under favorable driving conditions, as well as a 50% reduction in emissions. They even say it has similar effects on diesel.

A bottle of 50 pills costs $75.00.

Update (Apr 7, 2006): Strange New Products did not test this product, and does not endorse it. We only serve to inform readers about this, and other products. Consult an automobile expert before using it.

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OQQ said...: Haha, what a joke.; 12/18/2005 10:35:00 PM
Texas Oil man said...: You have to use four tank fulls to see the benifit and you have to use boosters by the time you have used them all,even if you were saving 18-22% you will have spent it on the damn pill; 12/19/2005 04:35:00 AM
Anonymous said...: Maybe you should change the name of this blog to Strange New Scams?; 12/19/2005 05:55:00 AM
Captain Bee said...: From a chemistry perspective, this is absolute idiocy. Do not buy these, they are useless.; 12/19/2005 08:19:00 PM
Crow T Human said...: The pills also cause "natural male enlargment", repel mosquitos and make you lose pounds of ugly fat with no exercise or changes to your diet. Come on people belieeeeeeve! Work with me here.; 12/26/2005 09:16:00 PM
R2K said...: Haha these scams are classic. I love how many morons there are who buy into this crap. Just goes to show you how poor american science education is.; 12/27/2005 03:31:00 PM
Anonymous said...: I have a Vietnamese friend that has been roped into selling it and he is trying to get me to buy. I am absolutely no chemisty major but....I am cautious. I cannot explain to him the old adage " if it is too good to be true " etc... I hate to see this because he is a good person, but poor and hopes to make extra money selling this stupid product. How can we help him not get taken in?; 1/12/2006 06:56:00 AM
Anonymous said...: I have a Vietnamese friend that has been roped into selling it and he is trying to get me to buy. I am absolutely no chemisty major but....I am cautious. I cannot explain to him the old adage " if it is too good to be true " etc... I hate to see this because he is a good person, but poor and hopes to make extra money selling this stupid product. How can we help him not get taken in?; 1/12/2006 07:04:00 AM
Anonymous said...: OKAY, ALL THIS NEGATIVITY....WHO WITH THE "no-way" COMMENTS HAS ACTUALLY HAS TRIED THIS NEW PRODUCT??? Well, I have---And it works! It works, BIG-TIME!! ANd the price you put in the add is wrong too! It is $37.50 for 50 pills not 75.00
My husband has only been using for 2 tanks, (has a new Avalanche with digital read out) and he has gone form 14.1 mpg to 20.7 on the digital and is only on his second tank!! And.... he says he can tell it idles better!
Granted, the things that sound too good to be true usually are-----------------BUT I've done my homework on this one before we ever tried it ---and it is an exception....It is too good to be true & IT WORKS PEOPLE!! I'm going to www.youwillsave.mybpbiz.com
(they are the ones we got the product from) to learn how to tell others about it and get some of the oil co.'s profits......I want to stop spending & start saving! The Oil Co. is the scam! This stuff is working in our vehicles---BIG TIME!; 1/12/2006 08:15:00 PM
Anonymous said...: OKAY, ALL THIS NEGATIVITY....WHO WITH THE "no-way" COMMENTS HAS ACTUALLY HAS TRIED THIS NEW PRODUCT??? Well, I have---And it works! It works, BIG-TIME!! ANd the price you put in the add is wrong too! It is $37.50 for 50 pills not 75.00
My husband has only been using for 2 tanks, (has a new Avalanche with digital read out) and he has gone form 14.1 mpg to 20.7 on the digital and is only on his second tank!! And.... he says he can tell it idles better!
Granted, the things that sound too good to be true usually are-----------------BUT I've done my homework on this one before we ever tried it ---and it is an exception....It is too good to be true & IT WORKS PEOPLE!! I'm going to www.youwillsave.mybpbiz.com
(they are the ones we got the product from) to learn how to tell others about it and get some of the oil co.'s profits......I want to stop spending & start saving! The Oil Co. is the scam! This stuff is working in our vehicles---BIG TIME!; 1/12/2006 08:24:00 PM
Anonymous said...: This is what you get when you mix TV ministries with Amway. I checked out the website. I don't care if it works or not, the company is run by scamming simpletons - the "President" actually put "Flown on corporate jet on a regular basis" oh his bio! The product description reads like it was written in a high school chemistry class. If you mix a few basic chemistry terms like "Brownian motion" and "flash point" with very poor grammar, you can baffle and bs people into almost anything I guess.; 1/15/2006 11:17:00 AM
Fr. Mike said...: I agree that the so-called gas pill is more than likely a farse being perpetrated by fast-talking "bs-ers" who will not be around when the poop hits the fan. The analogy to Amway however is a poor one. Amway's products worked: several of them even won the company an environmental award from the United Nations. Amway reps also typically gave out free samples of nearly everything so that prospective customers would know the quality of the products BEFORE ever spending a dime of their own money. Let's be fair!; 1/15/2006 03:05:00 PM
Anonymous said...: This pill does work i used it in my truck and got almost 100 miles my first tank. You guys are idoits and if there are anyone out there post your email or contact me and i give you a sample money out of my own pocket but i'm willing to let you try it; 1/16/2006 06:23:00 PM
Arthur Nonamiss said...: the price you put in the add is wrong too! It is $37.50 for 50 pills not 75.00

Funny... when I follow the link that you posted to your site and click on the "estore" it says $75 per bottle.

Also, why are the only testimonials posted anonymously?; 1/18/2006 09:05:00 AM
adam muirhead said...: for the people that believe this pill doesnt work, you are all idiots. technology has advanced so this is possible. i've used the product and i sell it. it works and its worth the money. maybe you should open up your mind and think for urselves and stop letting the big oil compaines and government tell you what works and what doesnt. how in the hell do you think they make money? its off dumbasses who are just sheep in the governments herd. the government would be poor if they couldnt rip people off in oil.; 1/28/2006 06:15:00 PM
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Judy Willett said...: Don't bad mouth something if you have never used it. We have and it works.; 2/03/2006 12:36:00 PM
Anonymous said...: The real Morons are the ones who say it doesn't work, but they haven't tried it...probably because they ride a bicycle..and live in their moms basement and know everything.. Well, I have some news. This idea was first sought in the late 70's gas war days. A similar product was even sold at the tail end of it. My father still has a dose left over. It did work. See, the thing was that after the gas wars the cost of gas went back to well under a buck, but the pills were $5.95/ to treat 20 gallons. So do the math know it allers. It has not been cost effective until now to even attempt to re-introduce it. I heard it has been used in europe for nearly 20 years because they have always paid an equivelent to $3 or more per gallon. So please, let me guess, you nay-sayers are the same ones who said in 1988 who decided microsoft would never be a good investment, or in 1999, americans will never get hooked on starbucks coffee, it's too expensive at $6 per share IPO. Be a little more open minded folks.; 2/05/2006 12:31:00 PM
Anonymous said...: I have tried it for 4 tanks and it is not working (SCAM); 2/08/2006 08:34:00 PM
GAS_PILL_WORKS said...: The problem I see when reading these messages is that everyone who is saying this doesn't work hasn't tried it. This pill abosolutely DOES work!!
I was given some BioPerformance Fuel to try. After the second tank the savings went up 28%. That's an extra five miles per gallon!! Ihave talked to MANY people sence and they say the milage increses even more with the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th tank.
Needless to say I just signed up, I want in on the massive money that this newly formed company is producing. The great thing about it is anyone can join and each person who joins helps everyone out.
Visit the site, they speak the truth, "The proof IS in the pudding".
www.coolgasoline.mybpbiz.com; 2/09/2006 10:12:00 PM
rich said...: Did you ever hear the story of the camel getting his nose in the tent.Well here it is folks. this pill works and camel has his nose in the tent . You can be a part of this movement or not , it doesnt really matter.But if there was a chance to make change for you and this country , I think its worth a shot . Try it now , visit
www.bettermpgpill.mybpbiz.com; 2/11/2006 01:58:00 PM
Mike said...: hi all i just tried the pill and went from 13.8 to 16.4 in one tank
in a 04 avalanche check it out i will send you a free sample also www.gojuice.mybpbiz.com
also check out www.fatpatch4u.com; 2/11/2006 09:31:00 PM
Anonymous said...: hi i am a auto tech and this pill will hurt your cars performance beacause your car is designed to run under normal cond. these pills break down will break the fuel pump clogging fuel lines and injectors. if the broke down portion gets inside the combustion chamber it could blow the engine.; 2/12/2006 01:41:00 PM
Troy in Big D said...: All the negative people that are talking and have never used the product are a bunch of monkeys obviously with no life or hope. I've use the product on 17 tanks now and every tank I get between 150 to 170 miles extra. I have a 2002 Ford Diesel and I went from 12 to 16.5 miles per gallon. I do have some people that are using this product and not seeing as good of results, but alot are. I just tell them to keep trying. One of the people that keep trying finally got results, 28% increase. Everytime I fill up I've calculated that I save $32. It cost me on average $95 to fill up. I used to fill up 3 times a week now I'm filling up 2 times. Around $380 a month in savings. Give me a call if you don't believe it or you want more info.

214-538-0723 Troy www.checkout.mybpbiz.com; 2/12/2006 06:36:00 PM
Dave Thompson said...: Unfortunately, many people have been "taken to the cleaners" by Bio Performance. The company has changed their policies and procedures to read that they have the right to wait 21 business days to ship products ordered. I don't know how anyone trying to build a business can succeed with basically a one month turnaround time on products. Secondly, they are marketing camphor balls that smell EXACTLY like moth balls. The company says that they aren't moth balls, but you couldn't prove it by my nose! Moth balls WILL increase the performance of an engine and therefore increase mileage. Years ago stock car drivers use to put them in their gas tanks to increase their octane and performance. However, they are not approved by any agency for use in engines of any kind and will harm an engine if used for an extended period of time. The EPA registry number Bio Performance has posted is reportedly to a different product and not the one they are actually selling. They aren't credit worthy enough to have a merchant account to allow people to order products online, plus they don't want to get charge backs from credit card companies. So, one has to mail them in a personal check or money order to join the company or to buy products. They are now having the product manufactured in Mexico, and allegedly a shipment is held up at the US/Mexican border because the US government considers the product hazardous and will not allow it into the country. It looks like they have a good reason for changing their policies and procedures on shipment of product. At least they admit that the product is not approved by the EPA (in the small print on their web site.) If you ever wanted to smell a rat, take a whiff of Bio Performance. There is, however, a solid, debt free company which has an EPA tested, registered and APPROVED fuel conditioner that comes with a 30 day money back guarantee. One pill treats 20 gallons of gas or diesel. The company's name is Fuel Freedom International and they're out of Orlando, Florida. www.AmazingFuelPill.com will have more complete details. The product for which FFI has secured the marketing rights has been in use for over 30 years by the US government, municipalities and commercial companies around the country. I know! Why haven't we heard of it before now? I can't answer that. I'm just glad that I have heard about it now! I'd be glad to speak with anyone who would like to compare facts in a rational manner. The product I'm referring to is called the MPG-CAP. Since it is approved by the EPA as a fuel conditioner it is illegal for any manufacturer to void a warranty on a vehicle after use of this product. I would be more than glad to discuss this product and the mind blowing opportunity surrounding it with anyone who has an interest. Those of you who have minds that are not open to incredible possibilities will just have to remain among those whose minds are conditionded by the negative herd mentality and therefore live with the status quo. So, keep on paying those OPEC prices at the pump. You deserve to! If you'd like to talk reasonably call me. My number is 615-469-7560. I'm in the central time zone. P.S. FFI sends their product out Priority Mail and customers receive it within two or three days. Orders received before noon are shipped the same day! Thanks for taking the time to read this!

To Your Unlimited Success!

Dave Thompson; 2/12/2006 09:19:00 PM
Anonymous said...: All the negative posts have a comon thread ---Posters NEVER used the product or tested it.

All hte positive posts -- Posters used the product.

Draw your own conclusions.

I'm not a seller.; 2/13/2006 08:41:00 AM
Anonymous said...: Regardless if this pill works or not, the fact is there are 3 different levels to "get in" at. By definition (R.C.M.P. test) this is automatically a pyramid scheme.
(because someone can jump ahead of someone else merely by paying at a higher entry level, and not by selling product); 2/13/2006 03:36:00 PM
Informed said...: Just a thought, from an engineers perspective... Having looked at the pill and its claims, I can will provide some convincing arguments to elaborate on these gas pill claims. First and foremost, if you look at the chemistry side of the equation and the money associated with the petroleum industry, if something like this provided up to 35% performance increase like the company claims; then this would be something that would be awarded a peace prize. Peace prizes are awarded to people with innovative breakthroughs, and if something like this could break the laws of physics and make gasoline engines 35% more efficient, then that would be freaking amazing. On another note with regard to a 35% max increase in gas mileage, look at it this way... if it were 35% better gas mileage, then you would have to account for the effiency of gas engines plus this new 35%. Gas engines are about 25% efficient, while diesels are about 40% efficient. So 35% better efficiency would make your gas engine more efficient then that of diesels - which by the way is chemically impratical with the way combustion works.

Do people really think that science is mediocre? People drive their cars everyday and don't know how they even work - not even say, the eletrical system or even the mechanics of the suspension. How can people seem to have an opinion about something they don't even understand let alone make sense of?

Does people realize that enhancements like these are not regulated? As long as it did SOMETHING to the gas to make it better... say make it 91 instead of 90 which is actually really easy to do (91 is less combustive then 90 btw) then you would have the ability to honestly say it will increase your performance UP TO 35%. Well, no shiit. 0.000001 % increase falls in that category.

Look, I'm sure people will respond to my comments with ignorance... because if they didn't, then we would have no one buying these pills. Actually, please continue buying them,... it adds to our economy if they are produced in the USA!; 2/15/2006 03:48:00 PM
Dave Thompson said...: I'm responding to my own post of 2/12. First of all I would like to say that I have tried the Bio Performance pills and have received no increase in mileage. However, that does not mean, in my opinion, that the pills don't work. That just means that they didn't work on my first tank full of gas. I know people who have had great results with the pills as far as performance and mileage are concerned.

I will also have to say that I was probably a litte hard on the company in my first post and said some things that I need to apologize for saying. For example, saying that they evidently aren't credit worthy enough to get a merchant account and that if you ever wanted to smell a rat, just take a whiff of Bio Performance was really unprofessional on my part and, quite frankly, inexcusable. So, I do apologize to everyone for being so "tacky." Any new start-up will have challenges, period!

I have no idea why they don't have a merchant account in this day and age of internet commerce. Lack of credit was the only plausible reason in my mind other than not wanting to get charge backs from a credit card company, which I certainly hope is not the case. The reason I said that something smells is because of some of the reasons I mentioned in my first post and for the contradictions between what they have on their product label and what they have posted on their website regarding the EPA approval. They do need to get their act together in that regard because their website says they AREN'T approved by ANY agency of the US. Here is a copy and paste from the product page on their website. "In accordance with American Legislation, this product is registered with the
ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY of the Federal Government of the United States of America.
EPA 40-CFR 79.23 NO. 1932-0001.

[Registration of this product does not constitute endorsement, certification, or approval by any agency of the United States.]"

In plain english it looks like they are saying that registration does not constitute approval and that they indeed are NOT approved by the EPA, which is most definitely an agency of the United States. You will have to interpret that for yourself. Seems pretty plain to me though.

Just do your due diligence, like I should have done before I joined Bio Performance instead of doing it after the fact like I did. I decided to bail out because of the contradictions, not to mention the better compensation plan with Fuel Freedom International. Although, in all honesty, one could earn money faster up front with Bio Performance because of the $200 fast start bonus that comes from signing someone up. There is more to an opportunity than a $200 sign-up bonus though. I'm in it for the long haul!

To any Bio Performance distributors reading this I honestly wish you much success. I want everyone in the network marketing industry to succeed. I don't care which company they have decided to work. It's not good for the industry when a company or a distributor doesn't make it.

To Your Unlimited Success!

Dave Thompson
Nashville, TN
615-469-7560; 2/18/2006 06:33:00 PM
J.B Kennedy said...: I like the conmments made so far about the narrow-minded people in this country. That's just the same as following doctors orders when they keep you in medications and always sick. Open your eyes America|| Example: people from foreign countries come to America and open up a business and make it big, why because they are optimistic. There is nothing wrong with making alot of money and saving on gas too. This product works and it always will. So try beinfg open-minded let people enjoy the American dream for a change..J.B .Kennedy; 2/19/2006 06:26:00 PM
Anonymous said...: I have a construction company and have been in business since 1985. I own approx. 25 company vehicles which include not only full-size pick-ups but also a couple of dump trucks, boomtrucks and cranes as well as 8 rubbertire backhoes.

Our gross gas bill is around 4k a month. I have 35 projects going on around the state of Florida and our company pick-ups average around 40,000 miles a year. So, I have an interest in this pill of course and when I heard it was MLM I was taken back by that, however, a close friend of mine is using the pills on his vehicle and is getting good results so I agreed to try them.

I received a bottle of pills from him lastnight and put 6 pills in my vehicle this morning at the gas station when I filled up my tank. (6 because I can hold 23 gallons and you are to double the first intake) I drive a 2005 Lincoln Navigator and I was getting 13.7 mpg which is not good but is expected from such a large truck. I drove from Clearwater Florida to my office which is in Sarasota Fl and after 52 miles my digital reading on mpg was 16.8 mpg.

I am going to continue to use the product and if it holds true to saving me $ on my gas, you better believe that I'll have my company on this pill in no time.

My only problem thus far with this product is the putrid smell it eminates which is not easy to wash off the hands.

Try the pill. If you don't try it....I could care less and no one else should either. If you don't believe in it then go to the pump and fill up your gas tank and shut the fuck up.

DL; 2/21/2006 07:18:00 AM
shaun u said...: To all you negative people i want to ask if you used the pill if so i want proof...I used it along with about 5 other friends and we all got great results my one friend exceeded the 35% he got 39% savings. How can anyone say negative stuff without even trying it. I really didnt think it would work either but i gave it a try and it was great. I seen a comment from someone claiming to be a tech. saying it will mess your car up and that is totally false. Its actually good for your car and fuel system, it cleans it...And the company gaurentees it wont mess up your car if so they fix it free of charge. People take vitamens and suppliments and there is no proof at all they help and they could also have negative affects...I believe some are garbage. the bio performance pill can be proven im sure it will be on the news or 20/20 or something...do you actually expect this to get good press...you think they want to loose money on their precious gas..keep filling their pockets instead of using less gas...I paid $75 for 2 bottles of 40 pills that $75 saved me about $450........yeah and shows how much you know the price is wrong.......durrrr; 2/22/2006 01:12:00 AM
shaun u said...: I used the pill it works awesome. $75 for 2 bottles of 40 pills saved me $450 on gas...Did any of you negative people even take the time to try it? I noticed a person left a message claiming to be an auto tech saying it is bad for your car.....WRONG it is good for you car and it actually cleans the fuel system, and how can something harm your car that is non toxic???Go on the site do some research if anyone took time to do so they would find alot of useful stuff such as: an MSDS, Lab test results, a gaurentee that it will not mess your car up and if so they will fix it free of charge. Dont bash something if you are uneducated on it and cause it is too good to be true....The company sold over $4 million worth of this stuff since december....dont you think there would be alot of angry people out there??? By the way the price is wrong learn how to read..durrrr; 2/22/2006 01:22:00 AM
Jim said...: I have been using Bio Performance pills and have begun using the powder in my '95 Chev Suburban gas hog. My ave pre-BP MPG was 11.5 and I have received the following increases. 1st tank 16.6%,2nd tank 12%, 3rd tank 11%, 4th tank 24%,
5th tank 38% increase. I can account for some of the variance. The last increase was partially due to driving toward sea level with no headwind at a fairly constant 70 mph. The 4th tank I was going up to 80 mph into a head wind, slightly uphill away from sea level. 5 % of the 5th tank was city driving but mostly the Hwy which I explained earlier. I believe that in the interest of accuracy, I will need to test it for 10 more tanks full. I am an analytical type person but open minded and optimistic. I am also a businessman and a risk taker. I joined Bio P 3 weeks ago. I am building my business and have seen others experiencing noticeable results. I look at driving conditions very carefully and will continue my "test" indefinately. I have monitored my gas mileage since 1997 when I purchased the Suburban at 42,000 miles. It now has 190,000 miles and I have no plans to sell it. I will continue to test BP Fuel. I am expecting and would be satisfied with a 20 % increase in mileage in city driving. As I said my long term average is 11.5 mpg. 20 % increase would give me 13.8 mpg. Assuming Gas costs $ 2.20/gal. and I fill up at 36 gallons in my 40 gallon tank. My cost is $ 79.20 plus the cost of the pills 4.5 X $.80 ea. (on auto-ship $ 63.87/ 2 bottles of 40 pills each). Total cost per 36 gallons is $ 82.80 per fill. My range at 13.8 mpg would be 496.8 miles assuming I always fill up at 36 gallons. My previous range at 11.5 mpg was 414 miles, a difference of 82.8 miles. Cost per mile is as follows: $82.8/496.8 =
$ .1667 (cost per mile). My previous cost per mile was
$ 79.20 /414 miles = $ .1913 (A differnce and savings of $.0246 per mile. Any # of miles would yield the same per mile savings. Over 450 miles I would save
$ 11.70. That is based on 20% increased gas mileage which I am hoping for in town. So far my max in town is 16.6 % increase and hwy must be discounted in this scenario. I'll continue to test it and I'll let you all (yankee for Y'all) know how I do. I am allowing that there are different driving conditions to consider. My analytical sceptical side is therefore yielding to my entrepreneurial spirit and I am marketing BP full force. If you negative wimpy people out there want to sit on the sidelines, wait and see. If this works long term, those of us with risk taking and foresight will all be millionaires. I'm not going to give my website out because I want you to consider carefully what I am saying without an economic motive. When I am fully persuaded about BP, I will give out my website to strangers and I will happily make money that I deserve because I was willing to try something new.; 2/22/2006 09:57:00 PM
Sean Ryan said...: Just a real fast up date for the smart folks..The shipdate as of tonight went from 21days to OVERNIGHT!!!! Also tonight BioPerformance reported that in 10weeks we have paid out more comissions than any network marketing companys in history!!!!; 2/23/2006 12:55:00 AM
SEAN RYAN said...: Just keep on helping folks and making lots of money.Some people make things happen..some people watch things happen...and most wounder what happend..Go Bio Performance and the good people involved,making life changes!!!; 2/23/2006 12:59:00 AM
Anonymous said...: What;s with this Bio Performance shit company? They are showing off wow, tremendous results with that shitty pill and they don't even afford their own web domain?

oh, c'mon, people, this kind of fraud is 80's style...they are obsolete..at least they should consider hiring an IT advisor and a marketing specialist..coz they suck!; 2/25/2006 08:26:00 AM
seminars said...: I have a doman or twelve. http://www.gasmileagesecretsrevealed.com

Okeee Dokee...kind of a hokey name but I did it for the search engines. You can find out how to contact me directly, and I'll talk to you!

When you do walk into Walmart or your local gas station, they have tons of products that claim to be gas treatments. This is not new.
By the logic of these threads, they must all be scams too!

Anyway, I suggest getting a handful of pills and trying them out. Most reps will sell you a smaller quantity for a sample. A buddy - who thinks you are serious - will probably even give them to you!; 2/26/2006 09:10:00 AM
Anonymous said...: i saw this pill on my local news station, they tested the pill on a mans brand new truck and he had an 8% gas mileage increase and he also said he thought it would work better on older cars b/c it could clean up your engine and you would actually recieve a higher increase, they also said you have better quality fuel with the pill so it actually works according to the news. so i think it is atleast worth a try, unless your stupid.; 2/27/2006 08:30:00 PM
Jim said...: This last negative comment made me think about how a profane person responds to new ideas. I know you haven't tried Bio P and all you can think of doing is bad mouthing what you don't believe because your skepticism and profanity rules your life. Many in our society exhibit this debased mentality and it is an affront to their creator. I continue to test this product and will not give a final evaluation until I have used 15 tanks of gas in my Suburban. I am patiently waiting for the gas to be used so I can calculate my 6th tank gas mileage. So far I am getting increases and no decreases in range/mpg. I haven't heard any arguements against Bio P with any substance. Let the intelligent skeptics come to the fore!; 2/27/2006 09:01:00 PM
Anonymous said...: Hello!
I have heard both good and bad about the gas pill. I have heard it works and doesn't work. I have never got to try it, so I won't say one way or another what it does or doesn't do. I have heard it is another pyramid scheme! It sounds to good to be true. I know a lot of people are investing there time and money into it. Some of the sellers are not telling the whole truth. You need to put four full tanks of gas before any results will start. It may work, what troubles me is that some people are borrowing money, taking money away from there family, etc, to invest. If it does work so good why don't they have it all over the stores? I know of some churches that are getting into it. I love GOD but I hope they quit trying to find get rich quick schemes. Is a vehicle safe from this? I know the engine is guarenteed but how much proof whould you need and what about the rest of the vehicle? I thought a bottle of pills was about $60.00 for members. Don't try to tell someone that sells this stuff it doesn't work, they get pretty upset. It is a great concept. Why isn't it open to everybody?! I am sure a lot of people don't have $200-$500 to even invest. It is just out of hand. I am sure there are good and bad points to it. I just know a lot of people are looking for a get rich quick thing and are being cocky. Don't put your families well being aside to invest. It may work but for how long? Even if it totally works how many people feel like putting a pill in and believing it will work. The website needs to have a page named "lamens terms". It may be the next big thing but don't make it into a pyramid.; 2/28/2006 09:06:00 AM
Jim said...: Last anonymous, thank you for being civilized in your skepticism I detect some J.O.B mentality in your comments. I am a businessman
(entrepreneur). I am in debt not because I spent it on frivolous personal toys or goofy Christmas gifts for Tom Dick and Harriette. We had to fix the house, make payments, pay exorbitant property tax, and fund my child's Christian school tuition. Overhead is substantial. $200 or $500 is really NOT a gamble considering the upside potential. Rather than sit on the side lines, too worried to try something new, why don't you find someone like me who would sell you 1 bottle of Bio P for
$40. You "gamble" that money and carefully monitor your MPG and range. Nothing ventured nothing gained. If you never witness the saving grace of God in Christ, you will never see any personal fruit (conversions). See Acts 4:12,
1Cor.4:1&2, 2Cor.5:20&21, and Romans 10: 14 & 15. What about the parable of the talents? You need network marketing to force you out of that little cocoon of yours and learn what investment and work for other people can do to bolster your character and usefullness to the master. As I said before, I'll let everyone know what the final results are after 10 to 15 tanks in my Suburban. If it doesn't make any difference, I'll say so. So far I have seen various increases from 11% to 38% city to hwy. More testing is required. Money is like air and water, truth is life. Both can help people now and certainly until eternity. Remember the parable of the unjust steward? Go do something, invent something, witness, build, don't sit and criticize, risk your life. Jesus said those who would save their life would lose it. Don't be a wimp, step out and take a gigantic $40 leap or get back in bed!; 2/28/2006 08:53:00 PM
Anonymous said...: I bought 10 pills for $15 using 2 pills for each of the first two fill-ups. I am now on week 4 with only 4 pills left. It hasn't increase my gas mileage at all, I really wanted this product to work on account of all the miles I drive. So far I give it a thumbs down. I will keep you posted on the results.; 3/01/2006 10:30:00 AM
Anonymous said...: Greed is a disgusting thing, isnt it.; 3/01/2006 05:57:00 PM
Corey Mir said...: My Brother-in-Law signed up for FFI's MPG-Cap and brought the company to my attention. My logic was this....if it saves me 10% per gallon (conservative #), my investment will save me $200 in gas over the next year+. So I took a leap of faith and invested $468 for 24 10packs and distributorship sales. Not a lot of money as far as MLMs go. Keep in mind I have never invested in an MLM before and I am not comfortable with selling distributorships. So is it risky to invest? We are never going to get free from the use of gas. The oil companies do not care what a barrel costs them from the middle east because they know we have no choice but to pay up. So once I determine this product will work at 10% or greater, my conscience will feel good to pass along the ability for others to save money and potentially earn some too.

Corey Mir www.4gas2last.myffi.biz; 3/02/2006 01:51:00 PM
Jim said...: Dear last anon, you are too stingy with your initial dose. Use 2 pills for every 8 gallons initially for two tanks or fill ups. 16 gallons = 4 pills On the 3rd tank use only 2 pills per fill up and so on. Follow the directions. I interviewed someone today who tried to bring a similar product to the U.S. from Europe. They have been using it since 1989 in Fr, Ger, Belgium, etc... I don't know if it is exactly the same product but it is readily avail in Europe and it works. Did I say "since 1989?" The other anon in re. "greed" You know you sound like an "entitlement mentality" demorat. Hey, I'm a conservative, the republicans are too liberal for me and the dems are too stupid.
Apparently you don't care about free enterprise. Well my 6th tank has yielded some interesting results: All city driving I got a 17.51% increase over the baseline previous to Bio P. If I drive 450 miles my savings is over $ 12.00 or $.026 per mile. I'm going to send a notorized statement to the company attesting to Bio P success in my Suburban. Some people have been reporting very high increases and I can't question them except to say that integrity and accuracy is important to me. I could tell you about my 38% increase but you see that was at night driving a steady 70 mph with no headwind and I don't have a per-Bio P long distance average mpg to use as a comparison. It's the same thing I've been reading on other blogs. The skeptics have no substance except that they are neg people by nature. I wish my fellow distributors would post more accurate mpg comparisons. I've left out some detail to simplify my testimony for the simpletons, but my 17.51% is completely accurate and my tests continue. My comments seem to be silencing the sour pusses. Come on bloggers, what do you have to say now?; 3/02/2006 08:02:00 PM
Chuck said...: Bio-Performance
As a new Independent Distributor of Bio Performance I would like to state the following.

I have tried and am using the product in powder form, (works better in colder climate, pill works fine above temp. of 45 degrees).

I drive a PT Cruiser, work the same job for the last 6 months, averaged 20 - 21 miles per gallon. Started adding Bio Performance Powder and have improved my mileage to 24 - 25 miles per gallon, not quite 20% but an improvement. ( I set my cruise control on 78 miles per hour, I contribute this to my stingy results).

I was using an average of 60 gallons per week, improvement is saving me 9 gallons per week, gas here in Pa. is $2.30 per gallon or a savings of $20.70 minus the powder, 1 teaspoon per tankfull, $3.90 cents, this puts me ahead $16.80 per week x 52 weeks or a savings of $ 873.60.

I would love to have gotten the 35% improvement but I am still saving money at 15%.

Anyone who would like to try go to www.onestepahead.us, fill in the blanks and I will get back to you and sell you a bottle of either the pills or the powder for you to try without any commitments. $40.00 a bottle (price set by Bio-Performance), I'll pay the shipping.

I just wanted to let eveyone know that I use the product, it works, results will be differn't for each user due to diffent types of vehicles and driving conditions.

If you haven't used the product, please keeps you comments to yourself.; 3/03/2006 07:30:00 AM
Jim said...: Looks like the neg comments have been silenced. Since my colleague gave his web site, I'll give mine:
www.gaspumpmoney.com I'll be glad to let someone try the product for $ 40.00 I'll send the lab report free of charge if you can't find it on my site. We are in Texas and my copier business takes credit cards for those who prefer a secure purchase through my own 26 year old company: Copier Sales & Service, Inc. I will be sending a notarized testimonial (affidavit) to Lowell Mims as he requested. My tests were not extraordinary but I would say that 17.51% increase is substantial enough to warrant you trying it out in your own vehicle. Go to my website and call me personally on my office phone if you are interested in ordering or finding out more about our great marketing plan. Literature is always free. I will also help my associates earn money by telling others about this great product.; 3/03/2006 07:06:00 PM
Kelley said...: http://www.bartleby.com/65/br/Brownian.html

Brownian Movement sounds all official and important, but it's nothing more than the movement of suspended particles buffered about by the molecules of the surrounding substance. It sounds all neat and fancy doesn't it? Just a tip; investigate. Find out what those impressive scientific terms mean. Ask questions. Sometimes, something that sounds good is only a mask of semantics, including the corporate doublespeak so common today. Being informed is not being close-minded, it's being a smart consumer. Most MLM's don't care about your well-being, they care about their bottom line; making money.; 3/04/2006 07:56:00 PM
Anonymous said...: If this product is a catalyst to a chemical reaction with fuel why on earth do you have to use 4 tanks before it works? Whoever suggests this 4 tank theory has no idea about how chemistry works.
The comments about inflamation point, dew point and flash point are incorrect, this may be due my misundestanding of the poor grammar.
If this product did what it says then it would increase the possiblity of detonation in an engine, as detonation occurs due to heat and pressure in the cylinder igniting your air/fuel mixture rather than your spark plug igniting the mixture. If you have ever blown an engine changes are its been from this detonation occuring (or you had no oil in it).
If all this crap about oil companies running the government and conspiracy theory were true why are companies like GM, Toyota, Ford, Nissan, Audi, Honda and Mitsubishi all developing hybrid fuel and alternative fuel vehicles? and why does the US government fund this research?; 3/04/2006 10:26:00 PM
Scotty said...: I think you should all save your money until you find some independant tests by your consumer associations.; 3/05/2006 12:25:00 AM
Scotty said...: While you wait for your consumer association reports you can save fuel by using a lower consumption car, cycling and walking.; 3/05/2006 12:29:00 AM
Anonymous said...: To all the nay-sayers about MLM! You ever heard of A.L. Williams? That company is now Primamerica, one of the largest financial companies in the U.S. I retired from them in 90 @ age 45. I buy the pills for my motorhome and have reached anywhere from 12% to 18% increase in mpg. If you don't want to sell it, at least use it.; 3/05/2006 03:47:00 PM
David said...: Tell you what. I OWN a Limo & Sedan company in the Phoenix, AZ area. You say it works? PROVE IT!! I drive 5-7 days a week about 60-300 miles a day. Send me some samples and I will truthfully tell the results of both products. If you want to install cameras to record the daily % ratios..so be it. I will be the test rat and if it does work half of the drivers in the northern part of Arizona and myself will buy more than you could imagine. I know 90% of the owners & 75% of the operators here. Try me if its so good! If you arent willing to take the challenge then shut it. Because if theres one thing I hate...Its getting cheated by scammers & liars. If you are interested contact me. If anyone steps up to the plate I will keep everyone informed daily of whats going on. Thanks. VIP-Sedans@cox.net; 3/06/2006 05:01:00 AM
Anonymous said...: Like the first comment, Haha, what a joke. I've been using the product myself befor I can have my friends commit to spending money on something that doesn't work. As of today, the moth balls haven't saved me any money. Good luck to you.; 3/06/2006 09:17:00 AM
Jackson said...: To the person quoting scripture:
What in God's creation does cutting gas at the pump have to do with scripture. Do not use scripture to bolster you Pyramidal Marketing Scheme. That is a disgrace to God.

Open your eye's people all of this is an Amway/Primamemerica type get-rich scheme to suck money out of people's pockets. Make money the way God designed, through honest hard work. This is from a 13 year veteran in the Navy.

Please people, stay away from these stupid scams and use this money to go to college and get a degree. Earn money the way God intended not from steeling from other people. I will get off my soap box know.; 3/06/2006 03:14:00 PM
Anonymous said...: I for one would not put a pill into my $50000 truck and I don't know anybody else who will. This sounds like a scam from the get go. I am sure alot of people will make alot of money at this but for how long is the question.; 3/06/2006 03:51:00 PM
Grace said...: This pill is fantastic. We have used it in 2 different vehicles.
One vehicle is a reg pickup and the other is a heavy duty work truck.

BioPerformance pills DO work. We tested the pills on 2 different vehicles.
2001 Nissan truck, we drive around town & husband drives it to work everyday. This truck INCREASED MILEAGE FROM 15 to 18.5 mpg.

1988 FordF350, husband's work truck. The truck HAS INCREASED MILEAGE FROM 4.5 to 8 mpg. The Ford got a 87.5% miles per gallon INCREASE!

My husband is a recycler and he used this truck to haul pallets and scrap metal. Some of the loads weighed 2-3 tons so you can see he gave it a work out.

Here is my testimony: http://www.grandcentralincome.com/bio/bio-05.htm

My website, http://www.goodbusiness.mybpbiz.com
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My friend's testimony:

I just filled the tank in my 2004 Tahoe and went from 16.6 mpg to 21.4 mpg.... that's a 4.8 mpg increase on my very first tank of gas using the green pill. Since I'm a believer now.... I'm sure the 2nd tank will do even better than the first....; 3/06/2006 05:06:00 PM
Grace said...: anyone who wants some samples -- write me at hazelnutfarmer111@yahoo.com

If you live on the west coast, all the better because maybe I can get you the pills faster.

I'm in favor of getting the TRUTH out about this great product.

We have gotten GREAT results and one of the trucks hauls 2-3 tons of scrap wood and metal every day. That rig went from 4.5 to 8 mPG. WHAT HUGE SAVINGS!!!

My husband has been a truck driver for over 30 years and he is so convinced this is a great product and is SAFE.....he is gonna tell all his trucking buddies about it.

So put this POSITIVE info in your pipe and smoke it. I don't hype.; 3/06/2006 05:35:00 PM
Anonymous said...: I ate one and it turned my poop blackish purple. However, my toilet now flushes a lot better and the buildup in the bowl has vanished!!! I bet this pill could possibly work on an engine to clean it out, too. I think I'll try it out there next. I'm too chicken to eat another one. I still can taste it after 9 days. But all this proves to me is that it keeps working long after it has been used.; 3/06/2006 06:33:00 PM
Anonymous said...: =================
To the dude (Jackson) who wrote this,

"Please people, stay away from these stupid scams and use this money to go to college and get a degree. Earn money the way God intended not from steeling from other people. I will get off my soap box know."

Errrr, why don't YOU go to college. and LeRn two spel. We'll go ahead and take advantage of some of the benefits of this awesome country we live in, such as the freedom to build a business. While we do it, we'll be careful not to "STEEL". Hope the Lord didn't send this product our way to help us, because it sounds like you might have a problem with it. I'd kinda hate for Him to be disappointed in your attitude. I'll also get my soapbox "know".; 3/06/2006 06:43:00 PM
shakey said...: To the RICH man with the "$50000 truck" Oooo We are soooo impressed! I have a 2005 Mercedes that cost $70000. I've used the BioPerformance pill in every tank since December 21st. My mileage before using the pill was an average 14.7 mpg. The window sticker when I purchased the car stated 14 city and 19 highway. Since December 21st I have steadily increased my mpg to an average of 19.3. That's right RICH boy, higher than the mfg spec. I too was sceptical but I wasn't too brain dead to try something new.
To everyone who wants to become a millionaire... I wish you the very best of luck, it can be done! I don't sell the BioPerformance product but I do use them. And, THEY WORK!!!!; 3/07/2006 10:11:00 AM
David said...: "Errrr, why don't YOU go to college. and LeRn two spel. We'll go ahead and take advantage of some of the benefits of this awesome country we live in, such as the freedom to build a business. While we do it, we'll be careful not to "STEEL". Hope the Lord didn't send this product our way to help us, because it sounds like you might have a problem with it. I'd kinda hate for Him to be disappointed in your attitude. I'll also get my soapbox "know"."

I have gone to college and have a degree in Computer Science; as well as a full time job in the US Navy. If I mistyped a word I apologize. If you want to build this so called business then you have every right to do so. I am just asking people to open their eyes to the thousands of predators on the internet trying to "steal" their money. If you want to make a business of selling mothballs go ahead.; 3/07/2006 01:13:00 PM
John Mack said...: I have got to give this a try, been looking for something to save on fuel costs. Our small construction company spends over 100k per year on fuel so losing a couple hundred dollars trying the product won't kill us, our mechanics cost that by noon every day.
I don't believe all the hype, but I don't see many naysayers that have actually tried it (OK Some, but aspirin doesn't work for everybody).

I do know that saving 20k over the next year would be nice. I have 4 guys monitoring their mpg before, and we will try it and see.

If it truely works and I have time, I will be back to let you know. If it doesn't and I have any dignity left at all, I will be back to warn the others.

I want to thank the guy who said he ate it, and his toilet was cleaner, I laughed so hard I cried, that was great.

As for God and college... Some people are "too" smart for wisdom - go figure.; 3/08/2006 01:06:00 AM
Pill_Saves_Gas said...: The toilet comment was good! I wish you the best of luck with the product, I'm very glad you have an open mind about it.
I too sell the product, I too have noticed a common thread among nay sayers, THEY HAVE NOT TRIED IT! I have noticed a steady increase, I am on my 3rd tank and getting an additional 4mpg. Not overly impressive, but pretty darn good for an Astro with almost 200,000 miles on it!
If the pills do not work for you, give the powder a try, or dissolve the pills in fuel first. Strictly speaking, you see variations the first couple tanks as it cleans your system (fuel spray patterns change as it is cleaned, this affects mpg) maybe way up the first tank, than down, than steady increases.
yes, they do smell like moth balls, but it is not moth balls. EPA wouldn't approve moth balls for your car! It's a solvent that you smell. Stinky, but not harmful, and I bet it could indeed clean a toilet bowl if left to dissolve. The only problem, it's petroleum based, so won't dissolve in water. :)
Jennifer
www.pillsavesgas.com; 3/08/2006 07:11:00 PM
Anonymous said...: You guys are great. I was merely doing research to debunk this Amway scheme for my in-laws, but just had to comment after hearing:
"How can something non-toxic harm your fuel system?".

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA!!!

How non-toxic is sugar? Pour some of that in your gas tank and let me know your milage numbers!

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!!!!

All of the people who are saying it works are the guys running the pyramid sales outlets. Then the one guy gets on and debunks this product and instead pushed his own retarded copycat fuel system additive product. This is too good. I should pop popcorn and watch it. ;-)

Carry on Scamway!; 3/09/2006 07:21:00 AM
Anonymous said...: I avoid MLM scams like the plaugue! I have a co-worker who has been selling these pills and signing up people left and right. He is making money doing this. Now, having said that, at his insistance and on his nickel, I have tried the pills in my wife's Malibu. We are on the second tank and milage is up from 23.04 mpg to 28.99 mpg. I am still not signing up to sell these because I belive it's a scam as a business, you have to get regular monthly automatic shipments as do your downliners. Well, if I only use 12 pills a month and a bottle has 40 who needs a garage full of pills? But the fact remains even though the business model may be a scam, the product does work. The question is, does the increased MPG translate into savings that justify the cost of pills at retail?; 3/09/2006 11:40:00 AM
Anonymous said...: To the 'know it all' who likes the clever play on words 'scamway' here's a little debunking on you buddy, sugar does not harm an internal combustion engine.
THIS IS AN URBAN LEGEND/OLD WIVES TALE!.
If you were as knowlegable as you claim to be you would know this !

Do your homework next time before you make a fool out of yourself.; 3/09/2006 11:45:00 AM
Anonymous said...: You guys crack me up!!! Get a life!; 3/09/2006 03:09:00 PM
Anonymous said...: The autoship of 2 bottles is 80 pills per month. It may be true that a person only uses about 12 pills per month... but a true distributer is not just buying these for personal use, he is supposed to be selling them and could even need more than the 2 bottles.; 3/10/2006 01:44:00 PM
Anonymous said...: Well I took the time to read all the comments. I am a pastor of a church. I drive a 2005 F-250 FX4 diesel. I have added performance equipment to the truck for optimal pulling and MPG. The changes to the stock truck were as follows; High vol. air intake, 5 inch exhaust pipe by magnaflow and the juice attitude adjust on the fly programer. I keep a log of my mpg and miles driven. I have done this for years due to the IRS. So I know what my mpg is and I can document it. My first tank with bio performance I gained almost 2mpg. That is city and hwy driving. normal conditions. my second tank was pure hwy miles and my gain went up 10mpg. My third tank was city and my increase remained at 2.2 mpg increase. I am sure that many of you have reason for your being negative. I was also an unbeliever. I do not expect that everyone will get the same increase i have. But you have to admit, going from 19.8 mpg to 29.9 is hard to argue with. My miles driven were 197 and when I filled up it took 6.4 gal. You do the math.

Mark Stanton
mstan.mybpbiz.com
Area manager
Yes I signed up.; 3/10/2006 09:19:00 PM
Anonymous said...: Every "Gas MLM" has FAILED or been SHUT DOWN by the FDA!

Please people do your research. MLM is great with the right products and company....however with the wrong products and company they become scams, schemes, and money games.

Any MLM that allows someone to acheive a higher rank or starting point by simply paying more money upfront or buying multiple business centers is illegal and eventually will be shut down.

If you so called A.L.Williams and Amway Heavy Hitters want to get on the phone with me we can get Rod Cook on with us, who is the #1 Industry consultant and owner of MLM Watchdog. He will GLADLY tell you what you are doing is illegal and I know Rod personally and I am informing him of this junk so he can make sure the Feds get you all shut down.

Why do people like the owner of this scam think using Religion as a cover is What Jesus would do? Does Donald Trump, Bill Gates, or Mike Dell use Religion as a cover or a way to try to gain trust. Hello that would be a NO their professional business people and don't need to do that scammy stuff! That's another load of BS that low life scam artists in MLM have used to scam people. That trend was started by none other than the Grand Daddy of sleaze balls: Mark Yarnell...the self proclaimed preacher...what a load of crap. Business is business and religion is religion.

I would like to comment on that point someone made about not accepting payment by credit card. Duh....that's what scammers do...that way they don't have a paper trail or the credit card companies chasing them for refunds like the last Gas MLM that was shut down.

Then factor in that it's a Binary where 99.9% will make zero, nada, nothing. But, the hypsters and heavy hitter types will pocket mega paydays. And, they are the ones on here trying to protect their bank accounts

If anyone wnats to discuss how to make good money with a reputable MLMand be proud of what you represent then respond here with your contact info and I will just visit with you...never any pressure as that is what amateurs and unprofessionals do. I'm a seasoned marketer and have been so since 1997.; 3/10/2006 10:38:00 PM
Scottsdale -> Phoenix Commuter said...: One of my friends is totally brainwashed by this so-called Gas Pill. Call me a sucker but I have tried everything from magnets to water injectors to "turbines" you put over the intake. None of them worked. In fact, the turbine thingy made my mileage worse. Just to shut him up, I bought a bottle from him. I drive a 1994 Ford Explorer 2wd 27 miles to and from work every day. My Explorer has 116k miles on it. I change the oil every 3k miles and it still runs great. My mpg varies slightly from 18-20mpg depending on traffic. I used the Gas Pill on six tanks of gas and my mpg varied from 18-20mpg. Does it work? All I know is that it didn't for me and I won't be buying another bottle of the stuff.

To those of you that said the pills smell like moth balls, they do. That's probably all they are is moth balls pressed into pills. Wish I would have thought of that!

P.T. Barnum said that there is a sucker born every minute.; 3/12/2006 11:46:00 AM
Anonymous said...: So this pill re programs the ECU(computer) and retimes the pulse on the fuel injector? Or does it make the hole smaller?

ATTN: people who have been scammed...
The computer controls how much fuel is being used, it doesnt car if its water, it pumps the same amount into the engine. If it was 900% more efficent, it wouldnt matter, it still pumps the same amount. So, unless you can take a gallon of gas, put a pill in it and make it 35% more fuel, its completely false. If you can do this, why wouldnt the gas stations use this to make billions upon billions of dollars?; 3/12/2006 04:23:00 PM
Grace said...: John Mack said...

Hi John. I tried emailing just now you but your ISP wouldn't accept my email from hazelnutfarmer111@yahoo.com

I would like to contact you because I know how much you must be paying for gas (being in construction work) and if I can get you some pills to try, that would be good for you!; 3/13/2006 06:45:00 PM
Uhhh, Hello or sumthin... said...: WOW.

"If you so called A.L.Williams and Amway Heavy Hitters want to get on the phone with me we can get Rod Cook on with us, who is the #1 Industry consultant and owner of MLM Watchdog. He will GLADLY tell you what you are doing is illegal and I know Rod personally and I am informing him of this junk so he can make sure the Feds get you all shut down. "

Haha - call Rod. Guess what? I'm going to tell your mommy. Maybe she just needs to beat your fanny bright red. And, since you're raising your hand to snitch on us, why don't you get permission to sharpen your pencil or take a wee wee as well. Good heavens, grow up.
Oh...after reading further, I see that you ARE all grown up. Seems I missed the ending statement of your foaming rant.

"I'm a seasoned marketer and have been so since 1997."

Errr - (sharp burst of static)seasoned a bit on the salty side, perhaps. Now THATS experience!!! Been in MLM for maybe 9 years. Your arm's been broken in 6 places pattin' yourself on your back. Oh yeah, you're a grand daddy at this and gee, would you please regale us with your profound opinion of the last 35 years of MLM history. Didn't know we were here to talk about Daddy Yarnell.
Everybody, we've got an EXPERT here! WOOHOO.

You are one of the reasons why MLM pros get an occasional chuckle. And thank you for that! Too bad that you are ALSO one of the people who take away so much credibility by making statements that I would expect from a badly behaved 4 year old whining about going to bed after his bath. For someone in an industry that should be focused on the positive, you sure bring out something besides. Maybe even a bit of hype with some vague, blundering accusations. Thats just top notch.
I understand that you might be sold (or "scammed") on another MLM. Ohh, now that sort of hurt, didnt it? Sorry. So you have chosen another system. Thats fine, but bickering about who is right and who is wrong just puts a bad light on the whole industry. Thanks for your negative comments, though. I feel much safer. I'll sign up for your - uh - home based business right away.
To people who have posted some useful information on mileage, performance or otherwise (good or bad) - Thank you too. Only had to sift through 97% BS to get the relevant 3%. Dawg! That sounds just like the numbers required to build a downline!
- out -
;-); 3/13/2006 10:48:00 PM
jack said...: Anonymous said...

Every "Gas MLM" has FAILED or been SHUT DOWN by the FDA!
Please people do your research. MLM is great with the right products and company....however with the wrong produ

- blah and blah and so on -

Please do YOUR research and be factual.

EnviroMax Plus available at
http://hotcatalyst.com/

Others listed on a simple Google search.

Cheers; 3/13/2006 11:15:00 PM
Jim said...: Anyone who wants to try two or three bottles of the powder to do a fair and accurate test, I will sell at my cost if you verbally agree to fax or e-mail me your results. You must follow the directions. Look, I'm not going to get rich selling 2 at my cost. I'd like some participation from some of you who are open to try it in your vehicle. You can contact me by phone -listed on my website at www.tecfuel.com - Jim; 3/14/2006 10:14:00 PM
Buktruk said...: First of all let me answer a couple of questions, some of which I too had, I did a lot of research and actually signed up after talking to a few family members who were getting good results.

The reason They are saying that it may take up to 21 days to get this product isn't because it is a scam etc. It is simply because UPS dropped the ball. This company is based out of a small town in Texas. They have grown so rapidly, over $9 million in sales in their first 3 months. UPS was not ready for this kind of volume from this area. The higher ups from UPS flew down to get it all straightend out, so the time should improve. Remember, though this is not a new product it is a newer company in the U.S. any one who has ran a business at any level knows that there will be problems in the beginning.

Now as far as the comment that says whoever came up with the 4 tank thing is crazy. I thought the same thing, but instead of instantly saying what a scam, I looked into it further. I talked to a few people trying to find out why it would take up to 4 tanks to see results if it is supposed to change the way the fuel burns. The answer is actually quite simple if you know what your talking about. This product does change the way your gas burns, and cleans out your fuel system, including your sensors such as o2 sensors etc. Due to the changes taking place, your sensors begin getting a different reading sensing more oxygen and send new signals back to the engine and producing the improper fuel to oxygen mixture. This is not corrected until the cleaning process is complete and your vehicles main computer resets to the new readings. All cars are different so I can not say how all cars reset. I do know that on some G.M. products, they cycle every so many times you rotate the key etc. I ran this theory, and a lot about this product past my dad who has been a certified mechanic for over 30 years, not only did he say it makes sense, but he signed up. He had the same thoughts as myself, if this stuff truly works, it is going to make a lot of money, and your risk is so small. Now let me say that a lot of people are seeing results on their first or second tank, some people are not getting results with the pills but then try the powder are getting results, perhaps the pills aren't getting past their anti syphon check valve. My brother in laws dad has a 1994 full size blacer with a 350 in it and 175K on it. Before using BP he was getting 14.6 mpg his first tank he actually lost 1 mpg. Talk about getting worried. However he stuck with it and has just completed his 3rd tank and is up to 19.1 mpg. The loss is most likely attributed to the scenario above.

Now I am not intending to be an expert on this product, this is just what I have heard through digging deeper into this product. If nothing else, give this stuff a try if you use it correctly it should work for you, if you don't it may not. I just purchased a 1999 buick regal. I ran one tank through it without the product 90% highway driving and got 24.5 mpg. Most people with this car are getting about 28-30 on the highway, not sure why I only got 24.5. I ran one tank through so far with bioperformance and got 29.5 mpg, also 90% highway driving. This car has 130k on it, so if nothing else, it looks like it does help to clean out your system. I will keep you posted with my results.

If you do sign up as an area manager it does cost $530 but you get 520 pills which you will not have a problem selling at $1 per pill simply because people are worth buying some to see if they work. I figured it was worth a shot, and so far it is looking good. I am going to have to get a few more results personally to be 100% sold, but so far it's looking good. I have done quite a bit of research on this product, and have a lot of info not available on the website. If you have any questions please e-mail me at getbpnow@yahoo.com and I will try to get the answers to you, not try to pressure you into signing up, just getting as much info out their as I can to help others.; 3/15/2006 06:17:00 AM
Anonymous said...: if this was ligitimate product it would not be pushed big time by pyramid scheme sales it wuold be offered at wal mart, and the news would be all over it.; 3/15/2006 06:40:00 AM
Emily said...: Non-toxic things CAN harm your car. I honestly don't know about sugar, but I dare you to put some water in the gas tank. Let me know how that works out for you. I mean, water's gotta be safe, right? After all, it IS non-toxic.; 3/15/2006 02:30:00 PM
Anonymous said...: Beware consumers! I did some research, decided to try the pill and my vehicle ended up in the shop getting the injectors cleaned out. $240.00 later, my truck was running smooth again. The culprit was the composite inert materials that make up the "Pill". The debris looked like slimey mud. I'm sure the people who have tried it have vehicles that use carburators and fuel filters below standard. If your situation conforms to most peoples of needing the vehicle, then don't trust the product....FYI, You can buy them off the web for 38.99 per 80 count.; 3/15/2006 06:37:00 PM
Anonymous said...: Hi all!
Did you know that people are consciously aware of their driving patterns when trying to prove on an investment they've made? Hence, spend $75.00 on a product and yes...you'll not do rabbit starts...stops...thus saving on gas. Which in turn, promotes your theory on the investment. For those of you out there actually falling for this SCAM...I have a few hundred acres of soon to be ocean front property in Arizona...; 3/15/2006 06:42:00 PM
Roll In Favor said...: Here is my take on the issue...
I have not heard anyone express this as of yet.
If you have to think about how much gas costs and/or how many mpg you are getting, you are broke. Whether you drive a crappy car or a brand new mercedes, if you worry about the price of gas, you don't make enough money. The goal is to out earn the problem, not put a band-aid on it. Has anyone ever become wealthy clipping coupons? This business is promoting a poverty mentality.

I am glad people are trying to make money this way in addition to what they are doing full time. I promote entrepenuership and being self employed. I am a business owner myself. Tell me though, what happens if people stop buying the product? It is only one product. They should make money if they have to sell x amount of product per month and sign up x amount of people a month to keep "their" business. My girlfriend's dad recently got involved to make some quick cash for the next year or two. He knows that this will not be around long term. As long as you approach this business (that has no guarantees on the product or business plan) as a short term, part time income you should be fine. I give it a year or two.

God Bless.; 3/16/2006 08:15:00 AM
Anonymous said...: Reading through this has really been interesting and quite a bit of thought has went into most of these comments. This information should be presented in higher exposure levels.

Somebody told me about this pill, so I decided to research it a little. I hope that what I found might raise some eyebrows and possibly even be a little mini episode of Mythbusters.

This person who told me about these pills related that as part of the sales pitch, the guy told them that "This product has been used in Europe for over 20 years", as if everybody over there knew what us dumb Americans did not. The irony there is that us Americans don't have any way of verifying a claim like that and tend to believe stuff very easily.

I am also an automotive engineer (no, not in fuel systems) and I am extremely skeptical about many things, especially "magic fuel economy" things.

It just so happened that in the course of asking around and poking around on the internet, I talked to a couple of guys who are on ISP's over here in the states who are from France. They are also car guys. I told them about the pill and they scoffed and laughed a little bit. I NEVER mentioned anything that I read on this board at all to them! This part is kind of key.

Then.... drumroll.... they said that the only thing that they ever heard of putting in gas tanks over there is MOTH BALLS! Obviously, after hearing this, my jaw dropped on the floor after reading the comments on this board.

Then off I go into more research. The active ingredient in moth balls is naphthalene. This is an explosive chemical which can be hazardous to people. Why do they put it in their gas tanks? Because it increases fuel octane! In fact, this is one of the chemicals used in the refinement process to increase octane levels.

What do increased octane levels lead to? Increased resistance to detonation, but unfortunately, no fuel economy increases.

So, I have no other choice to arrive at the conclusion that you guys are paying unbelievable markups on moth balls! Not only that, but they are dyed with other things added which apparently, as mentioned above, can clog injectors.

These guys said that in Europe, moth balls are used more frequently in diesel engines to actually clean them out. But let me stress again, this does absolutely not increase fuel economy. It increases octane.

And the guy who posted previously hit the nail directly on the head when he said that after you guys spend all this money on these pills, you will soft foot the car all around town and be very gentle in order to see increased fuel gains. Regardless of what and how you really think you are driving the car.

So, hopefully this makes sense to some.

For now, I would suggest checking out this link:
http://www.pricegig.com/pxxB0007KONEC.html

You can thank me later.

I'm out.

Todd; 3/16/2006 08:46:00 AM
madbio said...: For all you doubters out there. I have a 04 Dodge Ram 2500 3/4 ton diesel. I used the pills as per the specific directions and I added 100 miles more per tank. For those of you that haven't tried the fuel pills, give it a shot, if they don't work for you then bad mouth the product, until then, give it a rest. I'll even make a bet with you. I'll supply you the pills and walk you through the directions on how to use them. If they work, then you retract your staements here and consider being a distributor. I think thats fair. Here's my website www.madbio.mybpbiz.com or my email is mshunter@rochester.rr.com Give it a shot, you may like it.; 3/16/2006 04:48:00 PM
madbio said...: And for you PYRAMID scheme people out there, Your work is a pyramid. You have a boss who has 2 or 3 people above them who has 2 above them up to the president. Think about it, we all work in the basis of a pyramid. As for FR MIKE, AMWAY was a joke, you buy there cleaning product which you had to stock and inventory and had to get people to do the same, and you had to buy x amount each month and keep paperwork etc, was a joke that was. Here, no product to stock, no paperwork and no, I'm not saying it's a get rich thing either, but right now the money is there, and it's good. The company is only 13 weeks old and has paid out over 5 million in commissions and sold over 10 million in product, not too shabby for only 3 months and a weeks worth. And the pills don't cost $ 75 by the way, where you got that info is erroneous. And for the mechanic who remained anoymous that this hurts the engine, WRONG !!!!! It completely dissolves with no resideue left in your tank or system. The product has been tested for 16 years and it lubricates your fuel system thats why you need to shock the system the first 2 times. If some of you would go to the website you wouldn't be making such ridiculous comments about the product. Try it cool, if it works great, if not, then bad mouth it.; 3/16/2006 05:02:00 PM
buktruk said...: One more thing to think about. For the person who stated something to the thought of: So these pills must reprogram your ecm, or make your fuel injector hole smaller. The answer to that question is quite simple.

When you burn fuel you are releasing the stored energy from the fuel. This stored energy is transmitted into mechanical energy by your engine. The goal here is to get the most energy you can out of the fuel your pumping into your cylinders. For the purpose of this discussion, these numbers are just made up to prove a point, suppose that you want your engine to run at 1000 rpm's. In order for it to do this it needs 100 calories of energy. Now suppose that when gas without bioperformance is ignited it releases 80% of its stored energy. Now suppose that one teaspoon of gas contains 100 calories of stored energy. Because of incomplete ignition you will actually have to pump 1.25 tsp. of gas into your engine to get the 100 calories.

Now suppose that with Bioperformance you release 100% of the energy or complete combustion to produce 100 calories you would only need to have 1 tsp. of fuel in your engine for the same result.

So how is this done? A crazy invention called a Gas Pedal. You simply put a little less pressure on it and amazingly you will put less gas into your engine. If your burning your fuel more efficiently you don't need as much of it to get the same results. Hence more mpg, and gas savings.

Now keep in mind these numbers are all 100% made up, I am not saying that they are in any way the result of using Bioperformance, etc. I am just using them to explain a rather simple process.; 3/16/2006 05:32:00 PM
Anonymous said...: Making money is never a joke. If you work at something you sell, you reap the rewards. If you buy into something and do not work you make no money. Hence, the word scam came about. I sell used cars and everyone seems to think that it is a scam because profit became a dirty word. Sell me soap, sell me make-up, etc, just work at it. You don't ask, you don't make money.
The gas pills did work for me. I guess if I knocked on your door to clean your windows with a non-steaking solution, I would be scamming you. It worked but boy am I wondering how. Get real --whiners. I like the product.
When I get ready for work each day I say "Someone is going to pay for me shaving my face today"!; 3/17/2006 12:22:00 AM
Anonymous said...: The following is info dated back in 1996:

http://www.faqs.org/faqs/autos/gasoline-faq/part3/preamble.html

6.20 Can mothballs increase octane?

The legend of mothballs as an octane enhancer arose well before WWII when
naphthalene was used as the active ingredient. Today, the majority of
mothballs use para-dichlorobenzene in place of naphthalene, so choose
carefully if you wish to experiment :-). There have been some concerns about
the toxicity of para-dichlorobenzene, and naphthalene mothballs have again
become popular. In the 1920s, typical gasoline octane ratings were 40-60
[11], and during the 1930s and 40s, the ratings increased by approximately 20
units as alkyl leads and improved refining processes became widespread [12].

Naphthalene has a blending motor octane number of 90 [52], so the addition of
a significant amount of mothballs could increase the octane, and they were
soluble in gasoline. The amount usually required to appreciably increase the
octane also had some adverse effects. The most obvious was due to the high
melting point ( 80C ), when the fuel evaporated the naphthalene would
precipitate out, blocking jets and filters. With modern gasolines,
naphthalene is more likely to reduce the octane rating, and the amount
required for low octane fuels will also create operational and emissions
problems.

In conclusion...While it's tempting to try this, it looks as if this is not new, cutting-edge technology, and I don't think I want my car to be a guina pig for what may happen to the fuel injectors, etc. Why, if they new about it before WWII, didn't someone capitalize on it back then? I guess I will check this message board in a few months to see what the updates say. It could be that we are reading messages saying that the money that was "saved" at the pump was handed to the mechanic (not to mention the frusteration of being left w/o transportation). You make the call.
~Skeptic; 3/17/2006 12:37:00 AM
madbio said...: BOTTOM LINE HERE.... Bio Performance is not an illegal pyramid. Mary Kay, Amway's parent company, Quixtar were and still are illegal pyramid scemes. Here's food for thought. Would you rather keep giving Exxon/Mobil money so they can increase their profits from 36.1 Billion to an even higher amount. How can they do this you ask. Because they can, and they don't care if they are taking advantage of you, now why isn't that illegal. Better yet, do you know that the government pays Exxon/Mobil to drill for oil in goverment owned waters in the Gulf of Mexico. Thats right, the U.S. Government owns certain areas of the Gulf of Mexico, and they pay Exxon/Mobil to drill for oil. It gets even better. Exxon/Mobil hasn't paid taxes on any of that oil... EVER. Once oil got to $35 a barrel, all oil companies were to pay taxes on each barrel, why hasn't that been done ? I see a bigger problem here and your crying about a fuel pill that works, and saves you some money. Something wrong with some of you people. You better stay anonymous before the goverment finds you and milks you out of more money that your willing to give up. Try it before you knock it.; 3/17/2006 01:30:00 PM
Glen@LzyBoy said...: I was skeptical about the BP "pill". My brother gave me enough of the products to use on 4 tanks of gas in my 2002 Volvo. 1st tank I saw a 9% increase in milage, 2nd tank was about the same, 3rd tank I recorded a 15% increase, 4th tank my overall increase has been some 23%. I have a small fleet of delivery trucks in which my weekly gas bill is nearly $4,000.00. I have been using the "pill" on my trucks for some 6 weeks now and I am consistantly saving $800 to $900 per week. I don't know about any of you, but this is big bucks in my book. No, I don't seel the product, I simply use it. I'm glad I do!; 3/17/2006 09:10:00 PM
Kenmasters/phd said...: After using the product for about 2 months now, I have decided to start selling it. I am a chemical engineer and have done quite a bit of reasearch on the product. Sure it consists of several compounds which are simple in nature, but when combined such as PB has done, it is a true physical "magic pill" as far as combustion is concerned. It simply works, and works well. Not everything is this world that is good is rocket science. Simplicity still works! I highly recommend this product. I cannot see a downside to it.; 3/17/2006 09:16:00 PM
SeanMonty said...: After using this product for some 6 weeks now, I am experiencing a 33% increase in milage in my 2000 Explorer and over 25% increase in my Dodge Caravan. It took 4 tankfulls like the people say but I am very please with the results. I have experienced no negative results only increased milage. The cost is some $37.50 for a bottle of 40 pills. It does save money and more than pays for itself. I highly recommend the BioPerformance Gas Pill!; 3/18/2006 08:17:00 AM
Anonymous said...: Settle the argument once and for all. If it is what they say it is. Give people a 4 tank supply for free so they can see for themselves. If it's the all wonderful miracle we have been looking for. I am sure everyone would start buying it and continue to do so. Just my 2 cents!; 3/18/2006 03:13:00 PM
Anonymous said...: Read this article on MLM
http://www.vandruff.com/mlm.html
thats basically what this is. another product same Pyramid Scam. Educate yourselves. If it sounds too good to be true it is. Product maybe good but this is still Multilevel Marketing.

Dont Get SCAMMED; 3/18/2006 05:48:00 PM
madbio said...: NOT ALL MLM IS A SCAM, so keep it shut if you don't know what your talking about. Secondly, It's not about selling the pill. It's about an opportunity to become a distributor yourself and invest in a product that you believe in and can use. Yes, you will have left over product that you can use to show someone how it works and then maybe they will become a distributor. I just love how ALL of you that have signed in as anonymous have called this a scam. Is that because you can be man enough to log in as a real user, and just love to bash things, thats my thought on it, you must have such low self esteeem you can bring yourself to trying something good and if it works you'll use it, or better yet, you signed in as anonymous because your going to try it and don't want your friends to know and then you will come in with a real name and give the product a good review. You just keep giving your money to the oil companies, they love you, oops no I mean your MONEY.; 3/19/2006 09:42:00 AM
madbio said...: here's our attorney by the way for this illegal MLM go to MLM-LAW.COM
he represents the company bio performance. So if this was an illegal scam, that means that this attorney is being unethical and should be reported to the bar association. This MLM is NOT ILLEGAL.. get it !!!!!!; 3/19/2006 09:44:00 AM
Anonymous said...: Why is it that people would rather talk bad about something, then just trying the product out? There is little risk to signing up for this product. It literally sells itself. As fas as I'm concerned you have to be an idiot not to give this product a chance with the steady increase of gas prices. Don't be afraid of change. Take a chance and you'll be pleasantly suprised. Check out my web www.musshenry.mybpbiz.co; 3/19/2006 03:02:00 PM
Anonymous said...: Here is my 2 cents. I have been checking out Bio Performance since a friend has talked to me about them. Since I'm in the Dallas area and the Bio Performance Corporate offices are stated as being in Irving, TX, on West Walnut Hills Lane, we decided to take a drive to the offices to see if I could get some samples and get some questions answered. As I walked in to BP's front office, there was no one there, and some empty bottles of the pills neatly place on a table...there was a door opened in the back office area and my wife poked her head in and said hello. Out came a lady who could hardly speak english. She was there with only one other lady, supposedly running the offices. I questioned her if this office suite was actually BP's corporate offices. She said yes. After a few more questions which she couldn't answer, she calls on her cell phone to a distributor in Houston and said he could answer all my questions...of course he could not, since these were corporate related. He just talked about how much money is being made. We were able to see into the back office area that there was nothing set up in terms of accounting, I.T, or customer service of anykind. There was not even a visable phone around accept her cell. However, we did see several bottles of soda pop on a table with some snacks. The lady told us that the President and V.P of the company were in California running meetings and they would be back on Monday. We were very uncomfortable with this. Our questions were, 1. Where is the accounting done? Who is doing I.T for the company? Where is customer support? Get the picture..is the 21 day wait period to get the product just floating days so the company has some revenue to work with and leway time? If this is a legit company, they should have these in place at the corporate offices unless everything is out sourced. Out sourcing is not the way to go for a start up and for an MLM as well.
We will not be a part of Bio Performance.; 3/19/2006 05:55:00 PM
madbio said...: another anonymous negative clown strikes again. The plant is in Dallas Texas for one. The support staff works at another location and also online for 2 and the 21 business day wait period is so that there is enough product to go around. The company is only 3 months old, give em a chance. Did your business get off the ground totally in 3 months, doubt it. Bio Performance was started by 2 couples without big corporate sponsors. So much for your lame questions that couldn't be answered, go to the right people next time.; 3/20/2006 10:01:00 AM
Chuck said...: I try and be reasonable when I come to this site to get a feel on how things are going.
I am a distributor, I have recieved the product, and I have received payment just as the compensation plan has stated.
If you do not want to put your name to something you feel so strong about, it doesn't really merit any respect.
I once again will state, I use the product and have improved my mpg from 20 to 23, that is a 15% increase which has been consistent for at least 3 weeks.
Paying $2.49 a gallon this now lowers my cost to $2.00 per gallon.
I will be glad to enlighten anyone who would like to use the product or be a part of the fastest growing business in the U.S.
www.onestepahead.us
Chuck Guider
Until then, please keep your comments to yourself.; 3/20/2006 02:43:00 PM
Chuck said...: I come to this site to get some feedback on how things are going out there in the rest of the country.
For all those entries that don't have a signature to them, I can only say your comments don't deserve any respect.
If you had a strong belief in what you were stating you would be proud to put a name to it.
I am a Distributor, I have received the product, and I have received my 1st Comission Check just like the Compensation Plan is laid out.
I have improved my mileage from 20 mpg - 23 mpg, this is a 15% increase. If you do the math, gas here is $2.49 a gallon, with the 15% savings its reduced to $2.00 per gallon.
The product cost $.65 per fill up, so I am very happy with my results.
If you want to learn more about the product or join the fastest growing company in the U.S. you can find me at:
www.onestepahead.us

Chuck Guider
Pa.; 3/20/2006 02:50:00 PM
madbio said...: Well said Chuck. If you haven't used the product, then you don't know what your talking about. I could see if you used it and got bad results, but none of the non-authors/anonymous people have even tried the product. By the way, if you are using the product, be aware that you may want to replace your fuel filter due to the product breaking up all the hydrocarbon in your tank. Your mileage will increase if you do this once the fuel system is cleaned and lubricated by the product. GOOD LUCK DISTRIBUTORS.; 3/20/2006 07:16:00 PM
The Sexy Brain said...: I came accross the opportunity tonight while surfing for *part time* opportunities to make money with the free time and flexible job I have. I'm picky about what I lend my credibility to which is what brought me to search out this site. My first impression was that this was a NEW opportunity and the best time to get in is when it's new, right. Then I got to a site where a poorly devised audio and visual presentation vaguely informed me about the product and agressively attempted to appeal to my lust for "financial success". Well, I'm not the ordinary get-rich-quick-online junkie who can be programmed to preach homogenized statements about Golden Opportunity after paying an extorniate fee to sell a product. America, that's just plain stupid. About as stupid as paying a cover charge to go into a club to buy $8 drinks.

I was immediately turned off by the southern-twang in the automated presentation who used the infamous 'Mac-Daw-nels" example of prime distribution. Why don't multi-level-marketers ever use other multi-level marketing companies as examples of successful companies?

I went on to search Google for BioPerformance and it was 15+ pages of reps ads in the results. So I switched my search to *consumer reports* because at this point I was more interested in lawsuits and damages to automobiles than I was about the compensation plan. I found no information on this topic, which concerns me. Even the best of the best independent-contractor/recruitment organizations like Primerica Financial Services has a one or two complaints. But by reading you can determine the legitimacy of the complaint. To see no consumer advocate reports on the "magic pill" concerns me.

I won't sign up for this reason. I need to be able to make an educated decision on whether an opportunity is worth investing $499 in to. There was not enough information on the possible side effects of long term use or testimonies from folks who had a bad experience using the product. Maybe it's because it's only been around 3 months?

I noticed the most successful people in this business are in the southern part of the US and most of the testimonies were based on driver's of American-made car models. I don't know what kind of cars they are driving but unless you can get a company like Jiffy Lube or Chevy to endorse the product, I don't have a raggedy vehicle I can test a magic pill in. In fact, most of the folks I know value their autos and wouldn't jeopardize it to save $3.00 on a full tank of gas.

I don't have any testimony of my own to report here about using the product, but as a marketing professional, I have to say that this company shot up a lot of red flags. First I would remove the word MAGIC from the advertisements and find alternative phrases for POWDER and PILLS. It all sounds like sucker bait to me. You can't make a sucker a loyal customer.

If you do the math, the cost of the required product membership ($59 to have an order auto-shipped to you each month) absorbs much of the savings that's boasted on the sites. Another thing that turned me off is the use of percentages instead of actual dollar figures. It appears to me that the type of person who would put magic pills in their car wouldn't know how to even calculate a percentage!

My 2 cents is invest $10 in a good tire gage.; 3/20/2006 08:55:00 PM
madbio said...: as for the last post by this so called marketer. Your off base with your statements. First Bio Performance is not and does not want to target Jiffy Lube type companies, so that shoots down your first objection. Second, there are other cars that have had the pill or powder used in them, like Mercedes Benz. Porsche to name a few. The company is 3 months old and I'm sure someone won't be happy with the product somewhere down the line, hence your complaint statute. Finally the product has 16 years of research behind it and has been used in Europe since 1989. Go there, maybe you will find your answers. As far as the commisions, you make 6% of everybody below you, everybody !!!! and those aren't personally sponsored people either. If you can do math, which obviously you struggle with. The people below you will be compensating you and they will actually be paying for your pills in the commissions. WOW ! that was hard wasn't it. Guess your not much of a marketer after all.; 3/21/2006 07:16:00 AM
Rachelle Patterson said...: A cheaper proven method is using Acetone in the tank. Do a google search for Acetone and MPG and you will find results. Acetone is only about $5 for a quart and you only use about 2-5 ounces per tank, depending on tank size. Been using it all winter and I do notice considerable MPG increase and performance.; 3/21/2006 07:57:00 AM
Rachelle Patterson said...: A cheaper proven method is using Acetone in the tank. Do a google search for Acetone and MPG and you will find results. Acetone is only about $5 for a quart and you only use about 2-5 ounces per tank, depending on tank size. Been using it all winter and I do notice considerable MPG increase and performance.; 3/21/2006 07:57:00 AM
madbio said...: To our marketing friend above, the company began in Dallas Texas and is travelling by word of mouth not tv ads etc, so thats why you see most of the people at the top are from southern staes, because it started there. Also the compensation plan goes up from 6% to 25% to 50% depending on the number of reps you also have join. You also get $200 for every rep that joins at the $ 499 level. Here's the problem with acetone vs fuel pill. If you have even the slightest of condesation in your fuel system, especially a diesel engine. The acetone will form an emulsion to the water, thus corroding the injectors, the injector pump and then damaging your engine or completely burning it out. Watch out when using acetone.; 3/21/2006 09:15:00 AM
Anonymous said...: To all of you "non-believers" I'll be the one laughing at you when I'm saving money on gas driving to the bank to cash my fat check!! AWESOME OPPORTUNITY!!!!!!!; 3/21/2006 11:27:00 AM
Anonymous said...: To all of you "non-believers" I'll be the one laughing at you when I'm saving money on gas driving to the bank to cash my fat check!! AWESOME OPPORTUNITY!!!!!!!; 3/21/2006 11:27:00 AM
Anonymous said...: I just heard about Bio-Performance tonight from a friend who asked me to listen to a non-existant 10pm (CST) conference call. Since the line was silent, I decided to check out his MyBp.biz website to see what I could learn.

First off, I'd like to know how an Evangelist is the President of a Gas Pill company? Does he have an exclusive right to this product, or something? When you click on the "Company" link to learn more about this corporation, all you see is two smiling couples and their life story. Nothing about the company itself. SOMETHING's FISHY WITH BIO PERFORMANCE FOLKS.

Also, they charge a huge amount of money to enable wholesale purchases and the opportunity to earn income. What if Sam's Club charged $500.00. Yikes! That's too much money just for an opportunity to purchase wholesale and also earn some referral overrides. I have over 1,000 on my team in a wellness business and the income and wholesale buying opportunities TOGETHER are only $36.00 one time. SOMETHING IS AWRY WITH BIO PERFORMANCE FOLKS.

Perhaps the owners of this "business" really do want to create 1,000 millionaires and that is why they're sticking to the Networking method distribution. The company I represent is approached daily by chains who want to market our formulations over the counter. But our product formulator/company founder understands that Networking is the most efficient way to move products, while also helping a whole lot of people improve their financial situation at the same time. So I understand the logistics behind Bio Performance's decision to use the MLM distribution model. But to charge so much money for obtaining access to that model has really given them a black eye in my mind. If the pills/powder work as advertised, the very intertia of the success will generate huge inflows of cash and commission payouts that will grow exponentially. So why would a company charge so much up-front money for an opportunity to earn commissions and buy product at the wholesale price? Perhaps they're not planning on being around too long, eh? "I'M GETTING A BAD FEELING ABOUT THIS, R2D2."

If I can find out what the ingredients are and determine that they are safe, I'll go to my friend's site and order some powder at retail. I noticed that the instructions on the site say that the Pills/Powder must be kept at room temperature. HOW DOES ONE KEEP THE TRUNK OF THEIR CAR AT ROOM TEMPERATURE???? I wonder if this stuff blows up like a fertilizer bomb if it gets too warm! Enough spekulatin. I'm a gonna mozie on over to Google and see what else I can learn about the ingredients and then decide whether the risk is worth the potential savings. Gas this Summer is going up well over $3.00, so it's good to investigate all options for saving as much as possible.
-MR.CHICAGO; 3/21/2006 10:31:00 PM
madbio said...: Mr. Chicago first if you know anything about MLM most companies charge between $200 and $1,000 to join. Secondly you won't find the ingredients online, there is no patent on the product for a good reason. If they patent the product then they must tell everyone in the world what the ingredients are, which everyone would then be making this product. They are trying to protect their product so there aren't copy cats. The product does work and you can earn some serious money, especially with a company so new. If you can find an MLM less than 3 years old with a good product line, then it's time to get in. This is not a get rich quick thing, but if your a go getter, you can do very well. I had to laugh about the evanglist part, did you know that the president of the USA is a cattle rancher, he's into oil and he's the president. Again, the company is just 14 weeks old and they come out with new things almost weekly. Give them a chance. things are moving fast for them right now.; 3/22/2006 03:51:00 AM
Anonymous said...: This is fucking riddikulus. LOL.

Trollwars.com; 3/22/2006 09:51:00 AM
Anonymous said...: If these pills are legit, why aren't auto parts retailers selling them? Why is it that they can only be bought through private sellers who are part of a multi-level marketing plan?; 3/22/2006 03:17:00 PM
Anonymous said...: Lets see..
Can you buy Mary Kay cosmetics in you local drug store? (MLM)
How about Tapperware? (MLM)
I hope this product NEVER hit store shelfs!
OH YEA!; 3/22/2006 07:09:00 PM
madbio said...: I just love these anonymous idiots who post things that they know nothing about. The reason you won't find this product on automotive store shelves is because the company at this time can not produce enough due to the supply and demand. Also the company is registered as a multi level marketer and it is against the MLM laws to have private distributors and then go and sell them at retail, or automotive stores. It is even illegal to sell this product Ebay and similar sites. The company is not targeting commercial accounts, it is concentrating on private distribution. Hope that answered your smart comment. As for the moron beloe you that stated that he / she hopes they never hit the shelf is a complete moron.; 3/22/2006 07:39:00 PM
Anonymous said...: FFI and The Bio Pill do not have Money Back guarantee if not satisfied. So sink your money with ever so present unsatisfied custom. or Invest in the proven product that Guarantees satisfaction or your money back.
The real Mccoy. and it doesnt leave a residue or smell funny.; 3/23/2006 03:38:00 AM
madbio said...: WOW ! that's the best you can do. I just love these anonymous clowns. They haven't tried the product so that means it doesn't work. You must be a politician to have such a narrow thought pattern. Give it a rest, try it or just go away would be better. So far none of your theories have panned out.; 3/23/2006 06:24:00 AM
Anonymous said...: I have read the information and the thing most emphasized is how much money you can make by becoming an area manager and setting up all you friends and relatives. If it is a real product that works as specified, it will be readily available real soon. Oh, yea, one more point. If you sign up to be a dealer, you must set up automatic bank draft and automatic ship arrangements.Let the games begin.; 3/23/2006 08:30:00 AM
Anonymous said...: For all of you who care to do some research, check out the scam.com website. Go to the MLM forum and read all about Bio Performance. Here is a direct link to the discussion thread. You can copy/paste it into your browser.
http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=9496&page=1; 3/23/2006 08:40:00 AM
jrspewing said...: This is for madbio, remember who you call an idiot when this scam comes crashing down. You, like so many other easily fooled people out there, wont know what hit you until it is too late. I read in earlier posts that this product has been used in Europe for years. If this is the case, then why wouldn't they have the in-site to boost production before entering the U.S. market? Maybe they didn't think that there were so many suckers here. Believe me, you will be reminded when the truth comes out.; 3/23/2006 05:04:00 PM
madbio said...: jrspewing, your doing exactly that spewing. I'm not in bio performance, but Ido know about the product. I didn't say the exact product was used bio performance was using is the same as the one in europe. A similar pill has been used in europe for 16 years. Get now moron; 3/23/2006 05:45:00 PM
Anonymous said...: madbio now says he is not "in" bio performance, but he is quoted earlier as saying "For all you doubters out there. I have a 04 Dodge Ram 2500 3/4 ton diesel. I used the pills as per the specific directions and I added 100 miles more per tank. For those of you that haven't tried the fuel pills, give it a shot, if they don't work for you then bad mouth the product, until then, give it a rest. I'll even make a bet with you. I'll supply you the pills and walk you through the directions on how to use them. If they work, then you retract your staements here and consider being a distributor. I think thats fair. Here's my website www.madbio.mybpbiz.com or my email is mshunter@rochester.rr.com Give it a shot, you may like it.

By madbio, at 3/16/2006 04:48:20 PM

Can you explain this, I guess you were in on 3/16 and now you aren't anymore?; 3/23/2006 07:07:00 PM
sharronrenee26 said...: I am on the band wagon this pill actually works!! after the first two uses my car went from 25 mpg to 27 mpg. if you used it and didn't see a change you were probably doing it wrong or didn't know your mileage in order to see an accurate increase. it works and i am happy with the results. not only that, everyone that i know who uses them has had no complaints so you naysayers can keep paying outrageous prices at the pump. I'm fighting back; 3/23/2006 08:00:00 PM
sharronrenee26 said...: This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.; 3/23/2006 08:10:00 PM
sharronrenee26 said...: www.savugas2.mybpbiz.com; 3/23/2006 08:13:00 PM
sharronrenee26 said...: Bioperformance has upgraded it's system to accept credit card payment for sign up. so much for that "paper trail" conspiracy someone spoke off. I'm happy with them I've seen others who've signed up get their commision checks already. it depends on how you work it. i see an increase in mileage. it's a win win situation to me. www.savugas2.mybpbiz.com; 3/23/2006 08:24:00 PM
nogood said...: Lets talk about the gas pill. I have a 95 Dodge pickup. I was told it will help increase the gas mileage up to 35% so I buy some of the product. I also have a 97 Dodge car. My truck has never changed in MPG. Now my car is a different story. I without the pill was getting 26.5 MPG. After 12 full tanks my MPG has droped to 22.5 and I have stopped useing the product from Bio Performance. Why did I stop, I wanted to get my MPG back. I bought into the business because I thought if it worked it would be great. I give many bottles away and not one person got any result. So if you want to waste you money go ahead. Also, it is something after these people sign up in the business all the sudden they are the worlds best Mechanics. They can trouble shoot all your problems on why the pill don't work. Like, it takes 4 tanks to see a result. Its cleaning out all the slug in your motor. It changes the way the fuel goes into the motor. Nothing more than hype.; 3/23/2006 10:00:00 PM
madbio said...: To the anonymous one who is afraid to have a real log in. I am not in Bio Performance, but my wife is. I just used the product and it worked in my truck, so yes I can explain it, so now find another band wagon to jump on nay sayer. As for nogood, I can tell you why you lost miles per gallon. Did you change your fuel filter ? I bet not. Due to the product cleaning your system it releases built up hydrocarbon in your fuel sytem and that hydrocarbon go to the fuel filter which in turn gives you poor gas mileage. Try changing the fuel filter, I bet your mileage goes back up and better than before.; 3/24/2006 03:49:00 AM
Anonymous said...: Enviro-Max patent holder to take legal action against BioPerformance and FFI

http://www.scamdex.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=21; 3/24/2006 07:19:00 AM
Anonymous said...: Madbio, save your lies for your friends and family that you will lie to about this product face to face. As for the people on this site, we have seen them first hand. You leave your website address, "www.madbio.mybpbiz.com" then you tell someone you're not in the biz. Then you say, "the product has been used and tested in Europe for 16 years" and then tell someone else you were not talking about this specific product, but anyone reading your blog can see different. The best thing for you to do is take your lies someone else, you're getting your stories mixed up on here!!!; 3/24/2006 07:21:00 AM
Anonymous said...: Try changing the fuel filter and the milage will go back up? Because these freaking pills clogged up the whole works and now you need a new filter. Be glad the junk didn't get to your injectors.

People don't put their ID's and names on this site because they don't want to take the time to make an account.

They don't have a patent because they don't want people stealing their ingredients? What a moronic statement! I'll just about bet that the DuPont company has one or two patents on their ingredients. You see, a patent KEEPS other people from copying your product. That is what they are there for.

The reason that this product is not patented is that moth balls have already been patented you see. It has not been used all over the world since 1989. Moth balls have!

Quote from scam.com on patents:
I emailed a distributor who was selling the Enviro-Max Plus on eBay and she emailed me back and eventually we talked on the phone. She said Extreme Research suspects that BioPerformance Fuel is a pill form of their patented product Enviro-Max plus.

BioPerformance Fuel is NOT PATENTED. When I asked the upline WHY it is not patented, I was told "Because we don't want to reveal the formula because others could copy it and sell knock-off versions and cut us out completely."

My guess is that BioPerformance Inc. had done exactly that to Extreme Research. My personal opinion is that they copied Enviro-Max Plus's formula (which is viewable through the patent it holds), altered it enough (turned it into a pill and powder) and wala - BioPerformance Fuel is born.
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Since the only scientific information you can find to support this product on this page is from testimonials (in true MLM fashion as a result of the brainwashing sessions), we should also give appropriate air time to alternate testimonials.

You guys should be proud that your product made it all the way to www.scam.com by the way. HA! From that thread:

Quote:
I will admit.... I fell for this scam .

After using the product as directed I am not only getting the worst gas mileage I have ever experienced with my vehicle in 4+ years of owning it but am now getting engine knocking and stalling that was never there prior to using this "magic pill". Requests for a refund and cancellation of future billing have thus far been unsuccessful.

RUN from this one...it is a big scam!

And it's run by an evangelist in Dallas.....what was I thinking? The company not only makes the MLM industry look bad but is a slap in the face to honest men-of-the-cloth everywhere (well I'm sure there has to be a few honest ones somewhere).

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I am also really curious how none of you are factoring into the "cost savings" in gasoline the cost of the pills and that you are paying like 50 cents per gallon extra for these moth balls.

The only argument you guys can give is that only people who have not tried this are the ones who are talking smack. But I see many people saying this stuff does not work. The ones saying it does are the ones involved in the MLM crap. I am too intelligent to give this thing a try since it would cost me $100 or so to even give it a chance to gunk up my car. Screw me once, shame on you. Screw me twice, shame on me. The Quixtar guys tried me once and that didn't work well either. Do the math you guys. Even for $37 for 50 pills, it's still $0.75 a pill and you have to use 6 pills per tank, which is $4.50 per tank for a small tank. It doesn't take a math major here.

We are too scared to put our names up here? That's the best you can do?

Todd Nethercutt - Famed hater of Scamway and all of the rest of the MLM crap out there that ruins people's lives financially and socially every time in the long run.; 3/24/2006 07:48:00 AM
madbio said...: Anonymous strikes again, you chicken heart fake losers. First I am not in the business, madbio is my wife's login so that takes care of that genius, again you can't read. Second, if you changed your fuel filter after the first 4 tanks of product you would see it CLEANED your system as it stated it would do. Thirdly you bashed me for telling the truth because you put it in your blog as you called me a liar. I told you there was no patent because they did not want to release the ingredients of the fuel. Fouurth I sais a similar product, not this exact product has been used in europe since 1989. And fith, you do have fuel savings if your in the business, because the people below you pay a percentage every month on what they get in pill or powder form. When your done at the end of the month the people in your downline are actually covering the cost of your pills. Doesn't get an easier to explain than that. Maybe you should go back to school and get some reading comprehension lessons, cuz you just ain't gettting it bud. Keep hiding behind they anonymous name too.; 3/24/2006 10:49:00 AM
madbio said...: If bio performance copied enviro max's formula , thus a patent infringment and the bio performance product doesn't work, that means that enviromax plus doesn't work. I f they copied something exactly, then niether product works. And some of you anonymous genius's are pushing enviromax.; 3/24/2006 10:53:00 AM
jrspewing said...: Why are you so fixated on knowing people's names? You just said that madbio is your wife's log on, so we technically don't know your name. I know that I don't want some crazy magic pill user knowing my real name. You are just trying to deflect the fact that someone duped you out of $500. At least you still have your title of "Magic Pill Manager"!; 3/24/2006 02:53:00 PM
lil said...: Note.. for those of you who tried this awesome product and didn't get any results if you were using Chevron gas then get some more pills/powder and try it with a different gas;because for some reason it won't work with that gas the company is starting a series of tests to see why.; 3/24/2006 03:06:00 PM
sharronrenee26 said...: Let the naysayers say nay and pay $3.00 for gas. My mother was an engineman in the Navy and after her honorable discharge she went on to work on school buses and then on to trains. I know she knows her way around an engine. she has tried Bioperformance and is pleased by the results. so far a 15% increase. So I don't care about the naysayers I'm going to save on gas and help bring the troops home.; 3/24/2006 03:20:00 PM
sharronrenee26 said...: And as far as the naysayers saying we've been scammed out of money by signing up check this: My mother signed up a month ago. She has already made back the money she invested along with the savings at the pump. so much for being out of 500. actually shes up now. Naysayers; 3/24/2006 03:24:00 PM
jrspewing said...: She is probably up alright, these pills stink so bad that her neighbors can't even sleep. Are you telling me that these "magic pills" can increase gas mileage and bring the troops home? Wow, i'm sold! Where can I send my $500? No more naysaying for me!; 3/24/2006 04:06:00 PM
madbio said...: hey jrspewing, I have to laugh at you, my wife hasn't been duped out of any money, she has made 5 times that 500 bucks already in just 3 weeks, so much for your telepathic abilities. try again, in fact know the facts first then say something. apparently you have access to my wifes bank account and her personal information right ! doubt it try again some place else.; 3/24/2006 04:33:00 PM
jrspewing said...: Madbio, did you know that the word "gullible" is not in the dictionary?; 3/24/2006 04:56:00 PM
madbio said...: jrspewing is that the best you can do ?; 3/24/2006 05:21:00 PM
jrspewing said...: It's just funny that everyone knows someone that is making money from this crap, but we never hear from these imaginary people. By the way, i'm calling your bluff. The only way to make money from this scam is to sign up managers. No way did your wife sign up enough people in three weeks to make back 5 times her origional $500.; 3/24/2006 06:38:00 PM
jrspewing said...: Please try some proper grammar and punctuation when you give your witty response.; 3/24/2006 06:54:00 PM
madbio said...: A) my grammar and punctuation is perfect you nitwit.

B) you don't have to sign up all those people to make that kind of money

C) She has signed 9 people as area managers so thats $ 200 times 9 so thats $ 1,800 in commission plus she has signed another 11 as managers so thats 11 people times $ 50 so thats $550 so now we're up to $ 2,350 plus she gets 6% of all business volume of everyone below her, not personally signed, but everyone that has come in after her in her downline. So say again genius. With her 6 % commission of all the people below her she has made over $ 2,500 already. I don't expect you to get it, your not bright enough. I can tell, especially when you tell someone to use proper grammar and punctuation and it's perfect. I tell you what hero, I'll pay for some english and grammar lessons for you with my wifes commision checks, how does that sound ?; 3/24/2006 07:14:00 PM
Anonymous said...: Than you don't CRAP about power of MLM with great product!; 3/24/2006 07:27:00 PM
sharronrenee26 said...: my mother isn't imaginary, she sits on the couch and laughs at the idiocy of you naysayers. She has signed up 3 area managers, 3 managers including myself and 3 independent business owners. I saw how she was making money so i signed up. I am speaking on behalf off my "imaginary" mother because she is far to intelligent to waste her time responding to negativity. But we do laugh at your ignorance; 3/25/2006 01:17:00 AM
jrspewing (aka naysayerNOmore) said...: Madbio, why doesn't your wife post messages? Its her business and her blogger name, but we only hear from you. Come on and confess, you are the looser that spent $500 to become a manager. It's ok to admit that you are alone and broke.

And sharronrenee26, how many times do I have to tell you that I am no longer a naysayer? Since your pills are going to stop the war, I am all for it! Maybe they will cure world hunger also?; 3/25/2006 06:42:00 AM
bushfreefuel said...: Too All Concerned: I am sharronrenee26's mother. I must take this time to address a few issues that I have heard come from this board. First, in a capitalistic system, free enterprise reigns. Second, there will always be those who refute claims of all kind; to those I say, "keep paying 2.50 plus for gas." As for me, I have had myriad careers. Billy Joel said it best, "only fools are satisfied." Therefore, I explored a plethora of careers, diesel mechanic is but one. I use BioPerformance so do my customers. WE are all pleased with the results. My 2005 never rode better. As a matter of fact, I was thinking of trading it in for something that performs better. However, since using BioPerformance, I haven't had the slow drag that I experienced. I can now go from 0-30 in a matter of seconds opposed to the nearly 45 seconds it took previously. I can only attribute such performance to the increased octane, and I certainly use 87 grade fuel. Before using the product, I got 300 miles per fill-up. The second tank, I got 325, on the third tank I didn't see much improvement beyond 325, but on the fourth tank, I received 340 miles on one tank of gas. One of my other distributors used the product on a trip she made to Philly, starting point is Hampton, VA. She called to tell me that she made the trip on one tank of gas where it usually took her a tank and a half. All I really have to say is use the product or pay high fuel costs. The choice is yours.; 3/25/2006 08:49:00 AM
madbio said...: jrspewing blah , blah , blah , I post here because i am the one using the product, any other questions ? I have already told you she has made her money back plus, if you don't believe it, then don't, I really don't care. If you have something positive to say then say it, otherwise all I hear from you is blah,blah,blah. No facts form you, no test results from you, in fact nothing has come from you except that garbage you keep spewing. I have an idea, save your breath so you'll be able to blow up your imaginary girlfriend tonight, maybe she'll listen to you. Anrd the other reason you don't hear from my wife is because she also has a full time job in management that she enjoys very much. I'm retired, so I can afford to slap a little sissy like you around from time to time. I think I hear your mommy calling you, "time for your bottle". cfareful not to choke on your own words.; 3/25/2006 09:40:00 AM
jrspewing said...: I would look forward to seeing an old decrepit fossil like you "smack me around". What test results have you provided? Oh I forgot, your "wife" is now a millionaire after selling pills for a month! The purpose of this blog is to get information from both sides. You started the name calling when questions arose. Take a lesson from bushfreefuel who posted a couple messages ago, she came across as an intelligent person that has some kind of information, not some crotchety old coot like you. Bushfreefuel, I congratulate you on at least making an educated post with realistic performance gains. Unfortunately, people like madbio will continue to make Bio-Performance look like fools gold.; 3/25/2006 12:01:00 PM
madbio said...: There you go again jrspewing, talking again about something you know nothing about. I'm glad you think that I'm an crotchdy old coot. I am actually only 42 years old an comfortably retired, now don't you feel stupid. You better get your money back from that psychic, she ain't working for you. And again you can read. I have posted my results and the vehicle I have tested on, check the blog again. And thirdly you, you still can't read, I never said my wife made a million, you did. I told you how much she has made already a few posts ago. So let me explain it to you again young man. I have a 2004 Dodge Ram quad cab Diesel with a 325 hp cummings turbo diesel motor and a 410 limited slip heavy duty tow package, for you that would be towing up to 6 tons. I have received over a 100 miles more per tank. Now that I have clustered it all in one blog, do you get it yet ? or do you still want to act like an infant ? You keep thinking you know me and my wife's finacial status, yet I keep showing that you don't , but yet you want to continue, you'll never learn, give it up. The product is working for me and has been for the last 2 month or so. So keep talking about something you haven't tried or tested yourself. You just make yourself look foolish because you have no idea what you are talking about. So until you test the product yourself and give independent results either good or bad, save your breath. You aren't making a difference here on this site other than showing your negative ignorance.; 3/25/2006 01:05:00 PM
madbio said...: Here jrspewing, just so you don't think you can make any money at this. I left the name and id # out intentionally, but here is just an example of what can be made, oh yeah, and has been made. That's money in the bank whether the company goes down or not.

Mar 07 06 O8:49a My BackOffice

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Comm. Detail Date Status Amount Check Charge
comm. detail 3/5/2006 Next Pay Period $612.OO $O.OO
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comm. detail 2/20/2006 Current Pay Period $8,585.OO $5.OO
comm. detail 2/13/2006 Printad - 3/3/2006 $5,595.00 $5.00
comm. detail 2/5/200* Printed - 2/24/2OO6 $4,171.00 $5.00
comm. detail 1/30/2006 Printed - 2/17/2006 $4,099.00 $5.00
comm. detail 1/23/2OO6 Printed - 2/10/2*06 $4,027.00 $5.00

comm. detail 1/16/2006 Printed - 2/4/2006 $3,277.00 $5.00
comm. detail 1/9/2O06 Printed - 1/28/2OO6 $2,733.00 $5.00
comm. detail 1/2/2006 Printed - 1/19/20O6 $1,260.00 $0.00
comm. detail 12/26/2OO5 Printed - 1/12/2OOC $1,970.00 $O.OO
comm. detail 12/19/2005 Printed - 1/4/2OO6 $83O.OO $O.OO
comm. detail 12/12/20O5 Printed -12/28/2O05 $99O.OO $O.OO
comm. detail 12/11/2005 Printed ~ 12/21/2005 $50.00 $O.OO; 3/25/2006 01:31:00 PM
jrspewing said...: Easy partner, don't blow a gasket! I have been using the magic mothball pill (a family member has unfortunately gotten on board with this hoax). There has been no mileage increase. I think that most of the people getting fuel economy increases have been those that shop for gas by price, not quality. This would explain why Chevron gas was not getting results. Those that use a better quality gas (myself included) don't have buildup in our engines. Keep dreaming with that bank statement! You have to be old, no 42 year old would have such corny comebacks!; 3/25/2006 01:50:00 PM
madbio said...: still with your childish taunts, better do better than that. And that bank statement is a factual document, whether you believe it or not. Like I said, I don't care what you think. As far as shopping around for gas prices, explain the diesel then. The price is the same here within 5 cents plus or minus. If they are mothballs you still would see improvement with octane increase, because thats what they do, increase octane, doesn't matter, a mothball doesn't know if you use 87 octane or 93 octane. True your engine would be cleaner because the fuel is more refined, but thats it. Well you keep thinking I'm old, it's know it alls like you that never have anything positive to say about anything.; 3/25/2006 02:12:00 PM
madbio said...: how long have you used the product ? did you shock the first 2 tanks ? how many miles are on your car ? when was the last time you changed your fuel filter ? what are your driving habits ? These are all questions you need to asking and answering for yourself. If you have substantial mileage on your vehicle, you may think about changing the fuel filter. I know you use premium grade fuel but there's still junk in it and it goes to your fuel filter. If you just started then give it time, if you don't see improvement, shock the system 2 more times and try again. If it doesn't work then. Well, then I would say that your one of the few it didn't work for.; 3/25/2006 02:20:00 PM
jrspewing said...: Fuel from Chevron also has additives to help clean your engine. Their gas is great! How is that for positive? You are still a douche!; 3/25/2006 02:21:00 PM
madbio said...: Chevron is no different than any other fuel. They have to meet, not exceed the standard for that octane. See tried to help you out and your back with the personal attacks again, then you wonder why you get it right back.; 3/25/2006 02:26:00 PM
Anonymous said...: Mr. JRSPEWING, Why don't you stop bashing people when they are trying to help you. Just so you are aware, I see you posted that Chevron puts additives in their fuel, so does Exxon/Mobil. Chevron owns Texaco and Caltex fuel companies. BP also adds fuel additives to their fuel. BP merged with several fuel companies over the years like Amoco, Arco, SOHIO and I believe one other. So I think I named most of the major fuel companies, I may have missed one, but they all put the same type additives in their fuel. I understand that you like and prefer Chevron and thats great. But Chevron is not the only fuel company that does this.; 3/25/2006 02:41:00 PM
sharronrenee26 said...: see i told you my mother is intelligent. and she was a diesel mechanic. she knows her stuff; 3/25/2006 03:07:00 PM
Anonymous said...: well then....this whole mess started off pretty well, getting some good info off both parties. then, closer to the end, it became quite interesting. and even closer to the end i found myself laughing very profusely. i think this 42 year old is stuck with a 16 year old mentality....which made the very end of this interesting site very BORING. and yes, i like being anonymous..it's more fun that way! so madbio(or whoever you are) knows, i have not used this product.....and never will. i think i would rather lick envelopes and send them off in the mail to make all kinds of money. (one time lister...so don't worry about giving a response)
Happy Trails!; 3/25/2006 06:54:00 PM
Anonymous said...: another naysayer enters the web, what a jerk he was/she was. amazing how shallow some people are or can be. glad that one is won't be back.; 3/25/2006 07:00:00 PM
Anonymous said...: 1)These pills supposedly lower the activation energy and change the flashpoint of gasoline. So do moth balls. By changing the flash point it WILL create increased energy and better gas mileage through an explosion of the fuel/ air mixture rather than a controlled burn across the top of the piston like an internal combustion engine should have. This concept is called detonation. Ask any mechanic about dangers of detonation, it will eventually destroy the engine. This more than likely will not happen in the immediate future, but years down the road after the good minister has made his money.
2)Anyone with a little knowledge in chemstry will tell you that an enzyme will continue to work on a substrate as long as adequate amounts of reactant and enzyme are supplied. Why would one need to wait up to four tanks of fuel to see results? There are enzymes that work in the human body at fractions of second!
3) To respond to "hydrocarbons clogging the filter", gasoline IS a hydrocarbon chain (so is propane, ethane, butane, etc) How can a filter be clogged with gasoline?
4)There is a lot of references in the post about "cleaning the fuel system". Gas mileage can be improved by simply cleaning the system and changing all the filters. The increased gas mileage could merely be in the first weeks of the recommended doubling of the pills.
5) Chemistry labs can moleculalry dimantle and determine the ingredients of any chemical with out knowing a single ingredient prior to testing. (This is exactly how the immensely complex chemical composition of DNA was discovered). Furthermore, the purpose of a patent is for protection once a chemical formula has been figured out by the competition. So why does BioPerformance not have a patent and why are they afraid to reveal the ingredients?
6) If this stuff truly works with no harm to the engine, it would bigger than the invention of the light bulb. Even a 5% savings nationally in fossil fuel consumption could eventually translate into billions of dollars worth of savings. That being the said, why would a company like Walmart or Autozone not be clamoring to get at this product? Why would a legitmat business play around with several million in sales dealing with private individuals when they could potentially generate billions by using conventional marketing channels such as Walmart? Let me speculate, a reputable, international company would not risk the liability of backing something fraudulent.
7) My theory is if they can at least get everyone to try it once out of curiosity, the company will generate a lot of revenue regardless if it works or not. It sounds to me as if that one try could cost a person rather heavily. I am seeing estimates of $30-70 for one bottle of pills, plus throw in the cost of the recomended fuel filter change by a mechanic and a person could be into hundreds of dollars with the first try. Hope it works. I will hang back watch for now.; 3/25/2006 09:55:00 PM
Discounted Solutions said...: For all of those that would like to see lab test results, you can go to my website, as they were just posted the today. I have added them to my site, and you can download them from there. BioPerformance Products work! In these test they were proven to be between 10-25% effective in increasing your fuel economy. Please take a look at this link: http://www.secretgaspowder.com/bioperformance_product_overview.html
Please post your comments about these results.; 3/26/2006 02:06:00 AM
Discounted Solutions said...: For all of those that would like to see lab test results, you can go to my website, as they were just posted the today. I have added them to my site, and you can download them from there. BioPerformance Products work! In these test they were proven to be between 10-25% effective in increasing your fuel economy. Please take a look at this link:
BioPerformance Lab Test PDF's
Please post your comments about these results.; 3/26/2006 02:10:00 AM
sharronrenee26 said...: Mary Kay is a great product not available at Walmart or any beauty store. Avon has some great stuff, but you have to get it from a avon lady. Where do you get Tupperware? Tupperware parties. get where I'm going.; 3/26/2006 06:16:00 AM
nogood said...: I was just looking at the test that was posted from Discounted Solutions. If you look at Lab Test #2, the weight of the car is only 820 LBS and has a 1.6 Lit motor. A fare cry to what size cars and motors are in the real world. I just know I had to remove my gas tank off my truck a few days ago because the pills don't desolve, they just plug up the fuel filter. That cost me $200. So if you want to waste your money and it cost you money please buy all you want. Like I posted before, I had to stop using them to get my gas MPG back where it was before. It went from a 26MPG to 22MPG so it cost me money to buy the pills. There into me for about $800 total. $500 when I joined, a couple auto ships, $200 to get my truck fixed. So hope you have better luck than I.; 3/26/2006 06:17:00 PM
Nomoth Inmitank said...: Discounted Solutions,

Did you happen to run a proton NMR spectrum, elemental analysis, TLC (thin layer chromatography), or HPLC why you were in the lab? If you did, my friend, you would have discovered that your "secret gas pill" is nothing more than NAPHTHALENE (mothballs) and a little bit of green dye. Dissolve some of the pill up in methylene chloride and spot it next to a sample of naphthalene. Run the plate up in the mobile phase of your choice and you will find it has the same Rf as naphthalene. Dissolve some up in dimethyl sulfoxide and run an NMR experiment. The spectrum shows about 97-98% pure naphthalene with a small amount of some other aromatic impurity that was also present in a spectrum I ran of naphthalene that I had obtained from a commercial supplier. It is not safe to be stockpiling this stuff in your homes and cars. Do a Google search on the MSDS for naphthalene. The reason you all smell the stuff so strongly is because mothballs are subliming in your homes and cars. Sublimation is the process by which something turns directly from solid to vapour. It is not because of this ridiculous statement in the technical report that claims exposure to sunlight causes the enzymes to release their vapor. There are no secret enzymes folks. You are being lied to. They did tell the truth about the solubility of the pill, however. Naphthalene is insoluble in water. After having a family member get involved with BioPerformance, reading some of the nonsense about these "secret pills" on several forums, and becoming concerned about the harm this may cause my family and families across America I decided it was time for someone to start speaking the truth. Thanks for your time.; 3/26/2006 07:16:00 PM
kpdude said...: I have a few questions about this 'Wonderful Pill", 1. If this has been in Europe since 1989 and has worked so well for them. Why do we not have the scientific, reliable and verifiable test that should have been conducted. All I have read is it has been in Europe. Why is Bioperformance conducting their own test when they could just use the "test" if any from Europe?
If only one man in the company has the rights to this product, who is to say he won't sell out to BIG OIL and leave his loyal entrepreneurs high and dry? A product like this, if it holds true, would be worth billoins to the oil companies. If the USA is 50% dependent on foreign oil, this product would cut that in half. Say Exxon buys out this wonder pill. They could put it in their fuel and advertise thier gas will give you 25% more MPG. This would inherently put all the other oil companies out of business. Who is to say a Oil Sheik won't buy the rights and shelve it? Now I have use the product in 2 cars and found an increase in power and MPG, but I am still remain skeptical on possible damage to the engine. No one and I mean no one has been able to clearly answer my questions? All I hear is the parroting of the Bioperformance site.
Bill; 3/26/2006 11:30:00 PM
Anonymous said...: After dissolving pills in a clear container of gasoline, noticed floating residue. Concerned this will eventually clog something as others have said. Does the powder do this or just the pill? Have used 20 pills so far and mileage is maybe 5% more. But clogging the system would not be worth it.

Anybody have a definitive answer?; 3/27/2006 12:15:00 AM
Midemac said...: Regarding Lab test #2 and the comment of nogood, the weight of the vehicle was 820 KG, not 820 pounds. That was an 1800 Lb. vehicle. It was listed as a 1995 VW sedan. True, it was much lighter than most vehicles today, but, nevertheless, still a valid result for that vehicle.

Sorry for your bad experience, but in my 1991 LeBaron, I did just experience a 13% increase in gas mileage with the first tank and expect to do much better. For me, the enzymes work. I used the powder as the pills do not work in all cases - some cars have anti syphon screens, not allowing the pills to pass and dissolve. Moreover, the powder works better for diesel as it dissolves more readily than the pills. I too am an engineer, and have an open mind here, but have yet to experience anything negative with the product.

I have run some numbers, and have found that at the $2.69 per gallon level I spent last night, considering the 13% increase in mileage experienced minus the cost of the 10 cc of product administered to the 15 gallons added, my savings was 18 cents per gallon or one gallon free of the 15 gallons purchased. Not the nobel prize - yet - but it is a move in the right direction. Note that when the price of gas hits the $3, $4, and $5 per gallon mark, as it will soon, the savings (@13%) will be higher - try 48 cents per gallon at the $5.00 per gallon level, or about 1.5 gallons free of the 15 gallons pumped.; 3/27/2006 01:18:00 AM
Anonymous said...: Um... Hello people! Is nobody reading my previous post or more importantly the one right before this which pretty much verifies that you all are being scammed into paying $50 for a bottle of mothballs??????

What part of this do you not understand????

Read my post way above this which shows where to buy 22 ounces of moth balls for $14 or whatever! Then send me a royalty check for the difference.

There's a sucker born every minute and even after seeing and hearing the truth, there is still no clarity.

Todd Nethercutt; 3/27/2006 06:43:00 AM
Anonymous said...: This will blow ya away!

A 10 year old company...not a start-up
100 million in sales per year worldwide
US military using product

impressive Fox and CBS News Reports (see video)

7 containers per month shipped to China
Review the news clippings at: http://www.ethosfr.com/video.htm

Quickly Reserve your spot for fre.e now and ask question later
Here is the link
http://www.4-ecorp.com/blessing
(Copy & Paste, if necessary)

Sponsor's user id: blessing
Make it a great weekend folks, we are about to make history!

Now is the time to reach out to your group, to secure their future by
being in early with the 4-E Corporation Ethos Fuel Re-formulator.

The countdown is on...

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frank; 3/27/2006 05:08:00 PM
frank said...: This will blow you folks away

A 10 year old company...not a start-up
100 million in sales per year worldwide
US military using product

impressive Fox and CBS News Reports (see video)

7 containers per month shipped to China
Review the news clippings at: http://www.ethosfr.com/video.htm

Quickly Reserve your spot for fre.e now and ask question later
Here is the link
http://www.4-ecorp.com/blessing
(Copy & Paste, if necessary)

Sponsor's user id: blessing
Make it a great weekend folks, we are about to make history!

Now is the time to reach out to your group, to secure their future by
being in early with the 4-E Corporation Ethos Fuel Re-formulator.

The countdown is on...

Team 4-E
frank; 3/27/2006 05:11:00 PM
Nomoth Inmitank said...: I second Mr.Todd Nethercutt's suggestion. Quit funneling all of your money to Lowell folks. Make some real money by buying your own mothballs! You can purchase six kilograms of naphthalene (mothballs) from Aldrich Chemical Company for around $400. Buy a couple cases of plastic bottles. Set up a flashy website using "secret" and "powerful" as many times as possible. Have an eighth grade science student write up your technical report. Recruit, recruit, recruit, recruit, recruit, recruit, and recruit. Get started now. This ride isn't going to last very long.; 3/27/2006 07:54:00 PM
Sheldon said...: Not sure what to think about the Pill additives. I have tried MPG-CAP in my wife's car without her knowing without success(fuel savings was nagitive instead of positive), leaving me to believe that one must know you are using these pills in order for them to work.

After some digging for information, (still trying to find out what the pills are composed of) on EPA's site the company is listed as Freedom Fuel Additive (Amway) Amway Corporation, which would explain alot about the marketing.

What really scares me about these pills is a possible future impact to burning these chemicals on top of the impact of burning the fuel.

Good thing I got the pills for free, bad thing is I may have to now clean the injectors and explain that to my wife.(I think I will leave out the pill part, I want to live to see a next week); 3/28/2006 07:38:00 AM
Sheldon said...: Update: Off a site that sells the freedom pills they list is as the ingredents: "Contains Petroleum Distillates and Xylene."

A search on wikipedia turned up this "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xylene" which lists some pretty nasty side affects affecting the brain including headaches and other symptoms.

Drugs affect the brain, cost lots of money, make you addicted, play tricks on the mind and go back to purchase more. Very Intresting!; 3/28/2006 08:22:00 AM
kaycee said...: I think Ethos FR is going to be the Winner in this fuel saving war.

They already have many huge clients and fleets including the Chinese goverment as users!

http://www.ethosfr.com

join the new startup for Ethos FR
http://www.4-ecorp.com/kaycee; 3/28/2006 09:03:00 AM
madbio said...: Brilliant ! Sheldon, first Bio Performance doesn't list their products contents anywhere. And the reason for that is ? They don't want to disclose them. If they had a patent they would have to disclose what the product was made of. I'm also keeping an eye on Ethos FR, not sure anybody is a winner here.; 3/28/2006 02:37:00 PM
Nomoth Inmitank said...: Madbio,

BioPerformance does not have a patent because they can't obtain one for naphthalene (mothballs). They might try to pull one off claiming method of use, but people have been throwing mothballs in their cars since World War II.; 3/28/2006 03:07:00 PM
madbio said...: it's not all mothballs, therefore they could get a patent, they have chosen not to, so they do not disclose what is in their product. If they are using pure mothballs (only) they would be violating the mothball patent, which they are not seeing there are other compounds in the product.; 3/28/2006 05:04:00 PM
kaycee said...: -
Ethos FR is used by the US armed forces in their Helicopter. The Chinese government uses it. Many Fleets in the US and oversears use it. Its patented, saves fuel and cuts pollution.

Brian C.; 3/28/2006 07:34:00 PM
cashforgas said...: Hi All - Last week, I signed up with Fuel Freedom International. I signed up because people who joined before me (my so called uplines) are intelligent people and my investment to start this business is very small comparing to the potential income and gas savings. The products have a money back guarantee so the risk is minimal for me. I haven't done any work and am still waiting for the products. Because the group I am under has many strong network marketers, today I already have 10 people under me. I don't even know who these people are but it's amazing how fast this business can become. If you would like to be under a strong team in this industry and are willing to put in a small investment, a few hundred bucks then go to my site and join the group.

www.cashforgas.myffi.biz

"Progress involves risk.
You can never steal second base if you don't leave the first."; 3/29/2006 02:05:00 AM
Sheldon said...: Last night was really interesting. Bringing all my new found research, I went out for my usual coffee and nightly meeting. I gathered a fair bit of information from the Ethos site, Freedom Fuel Site, BP’s site, and EPA. So far I have the following for ingredients:

-Ethos FR contains two families of esters, a group of cleaning esters and a group of lubricating esters in a mineral oil base.

-Environmax is zinc oxide.

-Fuel Freedom ingredients
Ester modified petroleum product.
Xylene
Hexanol
Diethylene Glycol Monomethyl Ether

-Bp fuel ingredients
Enzymes
Naphthalene

This list is what has come from Safety data sheets, the company websites, and other sources. The list may not be correct, that I am still researching.

Anyways the conversation came down to why I was not saving fuel, but used more when using the “Pill” and what was different. The only thing I could come up with was I stopped using STP products when I tried 5 of the pills.

STP Ingredients:

Trade secret ingredient 1 to 30%
Naphthalene
1,2,4-Trimethylbenzene
Xylene (mixed isomers)
Petroleum distillates (JP5 Jet fuel)
Stoddard solvent
Solvent-refined heavy paraffinic distillate
Distillates, petroleum, hydrotreated heavy paraffinic
Kerosine, petroleum, hydrodesulfurized
Solvent naphtha, petroleum, medium aliphatic
Solvent naphtha, petroleum, light aromatic

Will be testing the Car with STP for the next 5 fills but suspect that STP out performs the “Pill”.

Of all of us that tried the MPG-CAP it was a big bag of mixed results. A big percentage noticed no fuel difference or very little fuel economy as result of using the product. 2 People seen a huge difference on their rust buckets (These vehicles have cornered the market on rust, and have never have seen a filter change or anything).

I suggested last night that I should start a STP MLM, you send me $300.00 and I will even send you a 6 pack of STP fuel treatment just for joining up. Additionally for every person that joins under you I would send you 1 bottle of the stuff. I could then price the bottles for you to order at $45.00. That got a good laugh out of the room.

Will continue my research, and post my results as soon as I can......; 3/29/2006 06:54:00 AM
kaycee said...: Hi Sheldon,

I bet you find that Ethos FR wins out. The Air force picked it. The Chinese picked it out of 16 contenders.

http://ethos.12w.net; 3/29/2006 07:37:00 AM
Sheldon said...: For any who are intrested, here is a FAQ on gasoline.

http://www.faqs.org/faqs/autos/gasoline-faq/part1/section-2.html; 3/29/2006 11:36:00 AM
madbio said...: Sheldon, you only used 5 pills, how many times did you fill your tank ? You need to shock your tank twice then the normal amount thereafter. Hardly a fair research if you didn't follow the instruction to the "T". Curious, how big is your tank (gallons) ? Just curious.; 3/29/2006 02:22:00 PM
C. Ross (Middle School Educator) said...: Hello All,
First off, I will tell you that I am a total pessimist. I still wonder if Starbucks will last. Anyway, a good friend of mine recently became a part of the Bio-Performance group and from the onset I've told her it all sounds like a pyramid scam. She's jumped in head first anyway. I listen to her information, but I still don't get it. One thing I have noticed though is that the pills have increased MPG on two cars I have driven; one mine, one hers.. How and why, I can't say, but I tracked it myself.

We both started by filling the tanks without the pills, and keeping tabs on the types of driving we were each doing and the mileage from a full tank. When the tanks were just short of empty (my gas light had been on for over 35 miles) I filled up again. She told me to double the pills (for the first usage) from the usual one to two per 7 gallons of gas, which I did. After the tank was near empty again (same 35 miles with gas light on) I repeated the process, this time using 1 pill per seven gallons. Afterwards, I realized that my full-tank milage had increased from 328 to 372. I had not changed my driving habits either. Also, my 1996 Maxima, (which has had regular synthetic oil changes, tune ups and Bosch spark plugs since I bought it) seemed to lose the slightly rough ride it had after letting my niece borrow it for 4 months.

In February, I drove my friends 1997 Ford Expedition to Laughlin, Nevada. She had used the pills once, so I got to do the second run. When I got the truck it had gas in it, so I made it from L.A. to near Barstow, Ca. before I decided to fill up. I called her and told her the mileage before I filled up. I put in the pills as told, and when it was time to fill up again, the noted full-tank mileage had increased by nearly 59 miles. I know that some of this was due to highway driving, but it was still a considerable increase. She also had an increase of 34 miles on her other car, a rough riding Ford Probe.

Again, I don't know what caused the increase, but I did use the green, gas-smelling (not mothball smelling) pills as told. As of yet, I have not used them in my 2004 BMW 535i, but if things keep going well with the Maxima, Probe and Expedition, then eventually I will.

Because I am who I an I will not be joining Bio-Performance...I just am not a sales person, but if that's your thing, then try it out. If it makes you some money and saves people some then it can't be all bad. Just think of the person who said, "People won't buy bottled water when they can get it for free" or "Why would anyone need a computer for their home?"

Again, I don't have all the answers, but I do try to get some facts before I speak.

One last note. With oil companies making tens of billions in profits in just one quarter, wouldn't it be just like them shoot down a product that might prevent you from buying less of theirs? I haven't seen any fool-proof, professional test for or against the product, so for the moment, who knows!?; 3/29/2006 05:05:00 PM
belowzero said...: I most definitely agree with Todd and the other naysayers...a friend ( who loves MLM's) kept pressuring me to sign up with BP, I listened to their very hyped up conference call, I got '3-wayed' (that's where the person trying to sell you brings on one of his 'upline' to convince you), I visited their website ( how blatent the 'get rich quick scheme) but just to make my friend happy I ordered the product ( at full price - $75. + 19.95 for shipping ?!). While waiting for my shipment which took almost 3 weeks, I carefully logged all info needed to calculate usage/mileage, went and got my oil changed, new fuel filter and tire pressure. I am on my 3rd tank since using the moth-ball smelling BP and it hasn't worked for me yet...yes, I know they say wait till 4 tanks - but still!!
I seriously question the integrity of my 'friend'. After researching the various scam blogs ( which were filled with BP distributors churning out the same BS) there were these observations - Lowell Mimms, the Evangelist Minister has been involved with Herbalife and a telecommunications MLM and bilked people out of a ton of money ( of course his bio claims his success). Gus Romero, the co-owner is an import/export guru who lives in Mimms neighborhood and got him to try this BP( which by the way is from a Mexican company that sells the 'rights' to this stuff for the right price...the pills and powder are manufactured in the old "Coral Calcium' factory...perhaps the reason it takes so long to get your order)

Another blogger said he actually went to one of their many 'opportunity' events and said they were all about the money - One 'top earner' even instructed the crowd that if prospects start asking too many questions - just hang up on them!...another blogger said that he actually went to the office address and found it to be nothing but a front with only an older woman with a cell phone...
Another one ( on ripoffreport.com) told the details of her money loss to BP saying that they never get back to her emails...
You know, even if this stuff does work in some minimal way, this whole set up is just WRONG...capitalizing on the growing concern of fuel costs and consumption. A bunch of very slick networkers making a buck on the hopes, dreams and concerns of many...did you know that they offer " Spanish - only " events now ? These events ( that they also make money on...plus the sales of selling tools etc.) create a frenzied buzz ...just like the "Empero
r with no Clothes".
There are SO many red flags that have been mentioned before.
I have notified the Texas Attorney General ( they recently brought charges against a similar gas pill scam). Maybe if the concerned 'naysayers' want to put a stop to this crap - they can try to do that also.
The car companies would be swarming at this, along with other large government and corporate entities if this was on the up and up. As it is, the govt. is placing pressure on Auto makers to come up with more fuel efficient cars and much money is being spent on
R&D for alternative fuel. With the media focus on the energy crisis, the scumbags of BP see a golden opportunity to make their money and run...they don't care about anything else but that. For a real eyeopener check out "Pyramid Scheme Alert" to see how these MLMs work...it explains BioPerformance to a tee...
I am so angry...and I've lost a friend , but right is right .
Does anyone have any suggestions that might be effective in shutting BP down?; 3/29/2006 10:50:00 PM
kaycee said...: I think BelowZero is mostly correct in the perception that
BioP is creating a tremendous hype and basically profiting from that hype instead of the product.

From what I can see It is more profitable to enroll people than it is to sell the product. Your basically selling just vaporware and dreams that most buyers will never see!

There is way too much get rich quick mindset here as opposed to save money on gas.

I tried 5 tanks of BioP and got worse performance.

1 tank of enviromax got me 10% better mileage.

I am going to try ETHOS FR now.

Brian; 3/30/2006 09:21:00 AM
Nomoth Inmitank said...: Madbio,

Mothball patent?! You can't be serious. I am guessing you received you limited knowledge of patents from the answers Lowell Mimms provides when he answered the questions in the BioPerformance FAQ. The reason why people get patents is to prevent copycats from making and selling their product. Ask yourself this question. Does it really make sense that a revolutionary product, as this one claims to be, that has the potential to be a million dollar blockbuster, would not have a patent? It is very clear to me that they have something to hide. They can't get a patent because they are pedaling nothing more that naphthalene with some green dye. Lowell claims he has exclusive rights to the product in the USA in the FAQ. How is that possible if he has no US patent?; 3/30/2006 02:16:00 PM
madbio said...: to the naysayers, nowhere on the bio performance site does it say "GET RICH QUICK" thats the naysayers perception. Sorry to hear that the product didn't work for you, but it has worked for many others. I won't even comment on the pyramid scheme, because it's not, but believe what you want. That's fine; 3/30/2006 04:16:00 PM
Nomoth Inmitank said...: Belowzero,

I have a couple of suggestions for you. You have probably read my previous post regarding the fact that these pills are nothing more than naphthalene (mothballs) and green dye. I am not involved with any fuel additive organization nor do I work for an oil company. A relative of mine got involved and even when I sat down and presented the analytical data on these pills it made no difference. My first suggestion would be to contact any local state university (chemistry department) that has the ability to run you an NMR sample. Elemental analysis would be a good one to ask for as well. Tell them the background information as well about how Lowell claims "for someone to be able to know exactly what the product is made of and create the same product would be almost impossible" (this one is my personal favorite considering what we have done with the human genome project), that he claims the thing consists of two "bio-organic enzymes", and that he is selling the thing nationwide. This will get them excited about getting you some data. They would also probably be happy to both interpret and explain it to you. You could also get the same kinds of analytical data from a place like Galbraith Labs but if you go that route it may cost you anywhere from $85-250. Once you have gathered this data send it to the Texas Attorney General or have the person who helped gather the data present it to the Attorney General. Contact your local TV news station and get them interested in the story. There is also a gentleman who writes for the Chicago Tribune who did a story about two months ago that BioPerformance got really ticked about. He would probably love to get his hands on this information. If you are interested just visit their website. I have not even talked about the potential safety concerns. Take a peek at the MSDS for naphthalene and do a Google search on naphthalene mothballs. After you read those then take a look at the Bioperformance container which says "non-toxic" and the website which says not harmful to the skin or lungs. Safety concerns are also things to mention if you contact any kind of media about this. It might make the Attorney General take a more serious look as well.

On a side note. If you want to get a few good laughs take a look at the ridiculous answers they give to peoples questions (BioPerformance website FAQ). The answer to question 20 that refers to Colonel Sanders KFC recipe is another one of my favorites.; 3/30/2006 08:18:00 PM
belowzero said...: Thanks Nomoth for the suggestions on how to proceed. I hope that dialogue continues about BP until it gets exposed for what it truly is and gets shut down. I have pasted and copied the latest BP email received...you get spammed with email when you purchase from them...now, if you look at the top earners you'll see that it's exactly the math that is explained in "Pyramid Scam Alert".
Again,the product, amidst claims of its efficacy remains suspect, but not nearly as much as the self centered, unmoralistic people that spin this farce ...no integrity whatsoever...'Christians' American style I guess...anyway, here is the latest email from the Bioperformance ministry carnival...
$1,037,303.00 (THAT'S A MILLION!!!!) in commissions and 2,807 commission checks will be mailed this Friday, March 31 for the pay period of March 13 - 19.

141 people earned OVER $1,000.00 during this pay period!!!!

Here's the breakdown:

The number of people who earned $1,000 - $1,999 = EXACTLY 100 people

The number of people who earned $2,000 - $2,999 = 12 people

The number of people who earned $3,000 - $3,999 = 9 people

The number of people who earned $4,000 - $4,999 = 3 people

The number of people who earned $5,000 - $5,999 = 3 people

The number of people who earned $6,000 - $6,999 = 2 people

The number of people who earned $7,000 - $7,999 = 1 person

The number of people who earned $8,000 - $8,999 = 2 people

The number of people who earned $9,000 - $9,999 = 3 people

The number of people who earned $11,000 - $11,999 = 1 person

The number of people who earned $14,000 - $14,999 = 3 people

The number of people who earned $19,000 - $19,999 = 2 people

BioPerformance does not guarantee incomes whatsoever. This is just a way to strictly congratulate the Top 10 Earners!!! $8,731.00 was the lowest amount earned in the Top 10! Let's congratulate the Top 10 Earners for the pay period of March 13 - 19:

Steven Holland, Tennessee
Fred Erickson, Florida
Chip Statham and Cathy Foster, Texas and Colorado
Dr. Stan Harris, Pennsylvania
Norman Armstrong, Kentucky
Xtreme Team, Michigan
LGN, Inc., Texas
Judy Benjamin, Iowa
Jim and Debbie Barnett, Texas
Duvan Corp., New York
BioPerformance, Inc. started on Thursday, December 8, 2005... only 3 1/2 months ago!!!
29,101 people have signed up since BioPerformance started on December 8!!
500 - 600 new people are signing up everyday!! Note: This past Sunday almost 400 people signed up... and normally in Network Marketing, Sunday is a very, very slow day!!
$13,248,012.00 total sales!! (That's MILLIONS!!!!)
We predicted $6 MILLION in sales for March, but $6,157,476.00 sales so far in March... and March isn't over with yet!! (That's MILLIONS!!!!)
$8,692,711.00 total commissions earned!! (That's MILLIONS!!!!)
22,892 commission checks mailed!!
We predict the company will do $161,000,000.00 the first year!! (That's MILLIONS!!!!)
85% of the people are on auto ship in BioPerformance!!
We Are A Product Driven Company!!
All commissions are earned strictly from product sales!!

"I am on a mission to create 1,000 millionaires in BioPerformance, something that has never been done by any company in this Industry! The question is: Do you want to be 1 of the 1,000? If you do, then join the BioPerformance Energy Revolution today!"
---Lowell Mims, President of BioPerformance, inc.; 3/30/2006 10:14:00 PM
Sheldon said...: My fuel tank is 14 US gallons.
One MPG-CAP will treat 20 U.S. gallons of gas, and I used 2 "Pills" on the first tank. On those two pills there was no increase it accually decreased. The car did not make its usual 5 days on a tank of gas. (My wife works out of town, and she make the exact trip every day.) I usually fill the car on Saturday, but she had to fill it up before returning.

Saturday replaced the fuel and air filters,replaced the spark plugs which were gummed up with a really nasty substance that actually prevented one plug from firing, and changed the oil. Topped up the fuel tank, and added the next pill.

Thursday night the car was just about on Empty, off the gas station again.

Same for the remaining pills.

When I finished the pills off I am now back on the bottle of STP fuel additive and getting my full week.

When I talked was out for coffee last night, out of all the tests that have been conducted here, we all kind of felt that mine was the most accurate for millage tracking using the exact same course without changing what road was driven and not informing the wife that "I changed anything with the car in the way of fuel additives".

Found this of Intrest:
"No claims (which include personal testimonials) as to beneficial properties of any products offered by Fuel Freedom International may be made except those contained in official Fuel Freedom International literature." This was on the MLM site, yet I find on the net alot of thier MLM's making claims.

"Neither federal nor state regulatory agencies or officials approve or endorse any direct selling or network marketing companies or programs. Therefore, Distributors shall not represent or imply that Fuel Freedom International or its Marketing and Compensation Plan have been "approved," "endorsed" or otherwise sanctioned by any government agency." - Again there are claims that the EPA approve this product.

"Food grade" - this is my favorite. They make it food grade ether product and further down add seek medical attention right away if you eat one. Then to me it is not food grade.

I have been to Bio's site as well and have seen a lot of mistakes there as well.

As for not voiding the manufacturers warranty. I cannot see that as true, Warranty is not placed on a product and allow to put what ever you want in to the tank because the EPA says it is ok. If it eats the components, gums up things, or does anything else than what, the car company covers it because some other companies cause the damage, do not think so.

One last intrest for right now on these websites, first they hype up having million dollar server in place, (Which still scratching my head about, I could sell them a 500 thousand dollar server that could preform, and still pocket the difference) but not one of these companies talk about a labatory. Man even I could probly down load some plans for a meth-lab and talk a couple of convincing photos, hmmmm, high-preformance Meth tablets for your vehicle. Just need a MLM team, anyone intrested.....; 3/31/2006 07:37:00 AM
G Money said...: I had a guy call me up with the capsules for FFI. I told him that I could not promote anything unless I could see them work myself. He sent me a few in the mail and I put a capsule in each of my vehicles.

My wife normally has to fill up at 280-290 miles in the SUV. She was able to fill up at 350 miles.

I tried one in my Camaro Z28. I dropped one in the tank, topped off and drove home (5 miles from the gas station) and let the car sit over night to give the capsule time to blend in with the fuel. I drove the car for the next 7 days to see how it went. When the fuel guage got to the 1/2 way mark, I knew an improvement was happening because I had a lot more miles on there than I ever saw before. Normally I cannot go more than 350 miles on a tank of gas without the needle on the fuel guage pegged below the "E". Ask anyone who owns a Camaro Z28 and they'll tell you that they barely get 300 miles per tank.

I drove to 425 miles on a tank of gas and I'm getting close to 28 MPG. People who own Z28's with automatic transmissions absolutely, positively DO NOT GO OVER 400 miles per tank. It just does not happen. These cars are MAJOR gas hogs.

The only thing I did different was add the pill. I already watch my fuel economy closely because I drive a lot and I like to monitor fuel economy so I see if I have a problem.

If these pills were causing a problem (such as clogging a fuel injector, etc.) believe me, the gas mileage would GO DOWN, and NOT UP!

These FFI pills are definitey making a positive difference. I was able to drive an extra 3 days without having to fill up.

Go here and check out my page:
http://rileysauto.myffi.biz/

If you want to contact me, I can call you and even send you samples for you non-believers.

Send me an email to:
robertriley2004-fuelguy@yahoo.com

I'm putting my money where my mouth is.

Out of all of the home businesses I've ever done in 20 years, this has been the EASIEST one so far. I've called 30 people that I know over the phone and I have not had ONE SINGLE PERSON tell me that they were not interested.

I have been to the FFI company. I've met the owners. I've met people in the company who have showed me copies of their weekly checks. Folks, this company is the REAL DEAL. The capsules work. TONS of people are signing up every day. People who sign up with me will have the benefit of the spill over of all of the people I am signing up on a daily basis. I have 2,000+ leads that I am calling on. Anyone who signs up with me now will have the benefit of lots of those people being placed under them automatically... and that's in addition to your own efforts.

Send me an email with your name, address and phone # and I will send you some of this stuff to try out yourself.; 3/31/2006 08:42:00 AM
G Money said...: On another note, if you read all of the negative posts on here, these are all unfounded claims by people that are broke. They're not making any money, so they will post negative posts because they all want to bring you down to their level. They feel sorry for themselves.

It's just like when they had Donald Trump up doing an interview in front of an audience. They asked him, "If you lost all of your money and had to start over, what would you do?"

Donald Trump said, "Network Marketing."

Somebody in the audience went, "Boooooooooooooooooo!"

Donald Trump commented to him, "That's why I'm here and why you're down there."

If you plan to fail, you'll fail. If you plan to make money, you'll make money.

A negative attitude will not get you anything. If you all are satisfied with your mediocre jobs, then so be it. But if you're tired of watching people live in expensive homes and drive expensive cars wondering how they do it, then at least you have a vehicle here to get you there.

Take advantage of the timing! Gas prices are going to the moon. These pills from FFI are selling like hot cakes!

I also have an interested article about the Bio pill that I can email to any of you. That's not a pill I would get involved with. That is nothing more than a copycat company to FFI.

Moth balls burn up your valves. The FFI pills are non-toxic. There's no smell to them. They look like a multi-vitamin. So if your kid or pet got into them, they're not going to die. Plus since they are a capsule and not liquid, they are super convienient to carry in your car. If you kept a liquid bottle in your trunk and it got crushed, think of the nasty smell you'd have in there with those super toxic chemicals. Plus when you're trying to put it in the tank, it leaks all over and gets on your hands. YUCK! These FFI capsules are a piece of cake! That's why they are selling like crazy.

#1 They work
#2 They are easy to use
#3 People are making HUGE profits by selling them (I've seen the checks! BELIEVE ME! Last night I saw checks totalling over $7,000 and $9,000 FOR THE WEEK! So I know this company is NOT B.S.!

You can sit there and complain about your situation or get off your duff and do something about it.

Send me an email and I'll help you get started.

Sit here and dwell on the negative posts and what's that going to get you? NOTHING!

I read these posts before trying the pill. SO WHAT. A bunch of pissed off, depressed people trying to vent about their own personal problems and they use this forum as a way of shooting down people's dreams.; 3/31/2006 09:03:00 AM
kaycee said...: Enviro-Max sends another warning shot!

"To whom it may concern

Recently you may have received or heard of a public notice sent out by Fuel Freedom International. Here is a quote from that email:

"FFI's legal counsel has diligently reviewed all claims and technology and determined that their allegations are unfounded. In fact, the allegations make reference to the test results that are not FFI's product. Maxma has tested BioPerformance's product and a product for Viscon. They have no test results for FFI's product. Our legal counsel and manufacturer have reviewed all of the claims in the patent and have determined that none of the components in Maxma's patent are in the MPG-Caps"

I can assure you that the copy of the test that I have in my possession from Maxma was performed on FFI's gas capsule/pill known as MPG-Caps in December of 2005. I know that FFI believes that the test we have is only on the BioPerformance gas Pill and a product made by Viscon. There may be some miscommunication between the attorneys.

The fact is that we have 4 tests on 4 separate products that show potential patent infringement. One of these tests was performed on the FFI gas capsule/pill in December of 2005. This test is in addition to the BP gas pill and the product by Viscon. It is my understanding that on March 29, the attorney for Maxma (patent holder) has sent this specific information to the attorney for FFI.

Regarding FFI filing suit against Maxma & Extreme Research, they have the legal right to file anything they want. But I can assure you that any tests results on the FFI product, and any other product that is shown to infringe on EnviroMax Plus, will lead to aggressive action by Maxma (patent holder) to protect it's intellectual property rights.

If FFI wants to make potential legal threats, that is their choice. I would not concern your self with being a target of a lawsuit, when you are only sharing information that you have. If you are sharing this information, realize that you have not made any claims. Maxma, the patent holder of EnviroMax Plus, has sent the notice to FFI and is making the claims.

One thing is for sure, in the next several months the truth will come out about the BP and FFI gas pills/caps . . we have the tests to show our side of the story.

Dr Mike DeBord

Marketing Director, Extreme Research"; 3/31/2006 11:42:00 AM
G Money said...: Funny how the guy above leaves no email address, phone # or any way to contact him.; 3/31/2006 05:10:00 PM

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